A sailor who jumped from the USS Abraham Lincoln this month in what his wife described as a suicide attempt is now facing disciplinary action from the Navy, according to his wife and charging documents reviewed by MS NOW.
A sailor who jumped from the USS Abraham Lincoln this month in what his wife described as a suicide attempt is now facing disciplinary action from the Navy, according to his wife and charging documents reviewed by MS NOW.
I don’t know why so many go into the army when so many wars where pointless and solved nothing or made things worse. They don’t serve the country, they serve the billionaires.
Because recruiters target poor, dumb children and fill their heads with lies.
I had to take the ASVAB in school. I phoned it in and got an 88/99. A passing score was in the 20s depending on the branch. And every one of those fuckers harassed me trying to feed me lies about joining.
Armies in different countries do different things.
In Canada, I entered the as it’s how poor kids get a college education. End-of.
Our army isn’t the same as the seppo grunts, as we are an armed force and that’s an idea drilled into us regularly. We’re solders second, an armed force first.
Take away the guns and there’s still a lotta value in a bunch of people trained in coordinating and communicating, who know CPR and how to work a radio, who can work as a unit, even if it’s not doing shooty-pow-pow. And ammo’s pricy anyway.
Its often called the poverty draft. Its basically the only way to get access to socialised medicine (VA benefits), housing (VA subsidized loans), and education (GI bill).
yup. military folk live in a scocialized us that the rest of us don’t.
You can only get people to sacrifice themselves for the military if you withhold the things required to live.
Poverty
Drive through bumfuck, nowhere in the US. You’ll find a town of about 5-10k population, an hours drive from civilization, and it will be full of dilapidated ruins of houses.
Every road in/out of town will have a billboard telling you to join the marines.
And not to have an abortion.
There is always a third billboard to tell you gawd has the answers and to go to church.
Y’all described playing geo guessr in USA only mode.
Alternate billboards accepted are:
Payday loans
No money down w12/yr financing auto loans
And either a giant Jesus sign or a giant cross somewhere
Propaganda and desperation. We would literally need an anti-recruitment campaign to discourage people from signing up in high schools everywhere but the alternatives aren’t exactly appealing.
Imagine spreading propaganda. A lot of influencers are sponsored by the military and they find new ways to hire new people. And with all those personnel and money they still lose wars. A lot of that money should have been spent for healthcare and education.
Watching the excitement over the recent Top Gun sequel made me sick, there’s no need to glorify our ongoing terror campaigns like that.
All the responses are correct. These days it’s a complicated web of various factors, but the academic term I was taught for it was social caging (yeah, I know I probably misspelled that). In short, the state seeks its continued existence (and its existence is solely dependent on the violence of the military and police (and yeah, I know, I’m oversimplifying it)). Therefore, it uses various means of social pressure to encourage military service. Honor, glory, duty, citizenship, etc. The book Starship Troopers puts this into perspective quite well, very much worth a read (completely different from the movie from what I understand) (and no, I don’t agree with the society it puts forth, but I really don’t think the author does either. Read The Forever War afterward, a book written almost in response to Starship Troopers, they are strangely two books best read together).
Free health care, education, and a leased commaro.
C’mon now, sometimes it’s a 21% APR loan Camaro!
Right, but youre talking about uneducated poor 18 year olds who have been fed propaganda their entire lives and see it as their only escape while potentially doing something good. And then they get in and theyre beaten down and brainwashed even further.
Theyre basically cultists. We SHOULD hold them accountable for what they do, but the blame does not lay squarely on their shoulders.
Because in the US the military is a good way to get out of poverty. It gives you all the “socialist” stuff you get for free in other countries. You know, free education, health insurance, pensions and disability benefits. It also pays relatively well for someone that has no other skills and qualifications.
You ever been to Ohio? I’d blow up brown kids to get outta that hell hole.
Its zero entry bar, mostly comfortable, well playing job.