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It lets women know which men are listening to these influencers.
Also: pheromones? Why does that continue to get airtime each generation? The organ that processes pheromones in most mammals isn’t functional in humans, and most people cover the inside of their noses with so much artificial scent that they can’t smell anything subtle anyway. So all you get from that is the stink of bacterial byproducts.
They may create a chemical signal that other men do not, due to their genetics.
Any supporting evidence to this claim? I could just as easily claim that I have telekinetic powers that others do not because of my genetics.
You can’t assume uniformity in biology.
Yeah… You can. If there is an established norm, then there is no reason to assume extraordinary uniqueness unless presented with evidence that begs to differ.
And no, you can’t assume uniformity. That’s like saying that cilantro tastes the same to everyone (it doesn’t). Or that everyone can smell when someone has eaten asparagus from their urine (some can, and can’t). Everyone is different. That’s the effect of genetics.
Apparently you did not choose to read your own source?
And no, you can’t assume uniformity. That’s like saying that cilantro tastes the same to everyone (it doesn’t).
Ahh yes, a matter of subjectivity is exactly like claiming an objective fact…
Everyone is different. That’s the effect of genetics.
Everyone has a range of expression that is influenced by their genes. Someone being able to attract all women with their specific smell would not be something we have previously observed in any human. Meaning it’s safe to assume that it is not something someone’s genes can express.
Species-specific means they aren’t inter-species, not that they’re uniform across a species.
Intra-species variations of pheromone production has certainly been studied, the question isn’t really whether it occurs, but rather why intra-species pheromone variations occur.
It would stand to reason that different men emit differently balanced pheromones. Why would they all be the same?
My personal combination is attractive to her specifically. It’s possible she would find some other men’s sweat attractive as well, but I haven’t asked.
There is no scientific evidence to support that humans emit any pheromones, let alone a multitude of pheromones. Even if we did, we do not possess the vomeronasal organ that other animals have that allows them to detect them.
You don’t need a specific organ to have a reaction to chemical signals. A pheromone is just a chemical the body creates, and an external body responds to. That response can be due to smell, taste or even touch. No special organ is needed for any of those.
You don’t need a specific organ to have a reaction to chemical signals.
Yes… you do? That would be like saying you don’t need a nose to smell, or taste buds to taste.
pheromone is just a chemical the body creates, and an external body responds to
No. Pheromones are chemical messages that trigger specific behaviour or developmental changes in an external body.
That response can be due to smell, taste or even touch. No special organ is needed for any of those.
Smells and associations attached to smell are not the same thing as pheromones. In certain mammals and reptiles pheromones are received by the vomeronasal organ.
You’re trying to make pheromones out to be something not supported by the definition. Pheromones are chemicals created in one body, that have an effect in someone else’s body.
a chemical substance that is usually produced by an animal and serves especially as a stimulus to other individuals of the same species for one or more behavioral responses
Lol, the merriam Webster dictionary is not an appropriate source to define the scientific understanding of a word or term.
The biggest difference between a pheromone and an odorus compound is that pheromones have an Innate purpose and odors have responses learned through association.
By your understanding of the word pheromone the sulphuric odor in fart could be defined as a pheromone…
It looks like the receptor of pheromones is present, but doesn’t work. From [wiki]:
Among studies that use microanatomical methods, there is no reported evidence that human beings have active sensory neurons like those in working vomeronasal systems of other animals. Furthermore, there is no evidence to date that suggests there are nerve and axon connections between any existing sensory receptor cells that may be in the adult human VNO and the brain. Likewise, there is no evidence for any accessory olfactory bulb in adult human beings, and the key genes involved in VNO function in other mammals have pseudogenized in human beings.
Yeah, she loves her spouse so much she can’t help but repeatedly bring up details about her spouse which she appreciates in attempt to make the strange creep who’s hitting on her get a fucking clue.
But i don’t have any compunction to be subtle like her.
Bro she doesn’t like you. Stop bothering her and figure out literally anything else to do with your day other than hounding a married woman. You’re making her extremely uncomfortable.
The organ that processes pheromones in most mammals isn’t functional in humans
I think the main issue is that there’s no such thing as human pheromones… so whether we might be able to perceive them if they existed is entirely academic.
We are however capable of smelling body odours, and some of them are linked to sexual attraction or mate suitability and only appear after puberty.
Pheromones are chemical signals that living organisms release outside their bodies to communicate with other members of the same species. If you think humans don’t release chemical signals, you’re mistaken. We don’t have them mapped out because their creation and their reaction are both highly dependent on genetics of the creator and the receiver, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
However, yes, the smells created by bacteria will very likely overpower any positive benefit your pheromones could possibly impart. Fresh pheromone creation is where it’s at.
Seems like good advice.
It lets women know which men are listening to these influencers.
Also: pheromones? Why does that continue to get airtime each generation? The organ that processes pheromones in most mammals isn’t functional in humans, and most people cover the inside of their noses with so much artificial scent that they can’t smell anything subtle anyway. So all you get from that is the stink of bacterial byproducts.
My wife says my sweaty body is attractive to her. I dunno, there may be some truth to this.
Old stale sweat is a no go of course.
Nah, the key word is “my”. If she was actually sensitive to pheromones she would be attracted to the smell of all sweating men.
That’s not true. They may create a chemical signal that other men do not, due to their genetics. You can’t assume uniformity in biology.
Any supporting evidence to this claim? I could just as easily claim that I have telekinetic powers that others do not because of my genetics.
Yeah… You can. If there is an established norm, then there is no reason to assume extraordinary uniqueness unless presented with evidence that begs to differ.
Yes, plenty.
Here’s a good read for you
And no, you can’t assume uniformity. That’s like saying that cilantro tastes the same to everyone (it doesn’t). Or that everyone can smell when someone has eaten asparagus from their urine (some can, and can’t). Everyone is different. That’s the effect of genetics.
“Here’s a good read for you”
Apparently you did not choose to read your own source?
Ahh yes, a matter of subjectivity is exactly like claiming an objective fact…
Everyone has a range of expression that is influenced by their genes. Someone being able to attract all women with their specific smell would not be something we have previously observed in any human. Meaning it’s safe to assume that it is not something someone’s genes can express.
Ah yes, a study consisting of 25 people… with no behavioural controls. Brilliant.
Species-specific means they aren’t inter-species, not that they’re uniform across a species.
Intra-species variations of pheromone production has certainly been studied, the question isn’t really whether it occurs, but rather why intra-species pheromone variations occur.
When did I make that assumption…?
I am certainly attracted to the smell of sweaty (clean) women, and even myself since transitioning. Women sweat is like ooof.
You can like a smell without pheromones being involved, more than likely it’s just associative.
It would stand to reason that different men emit differently balanced pheromones. Why would they all be the same?
My personal combination is attractive to her specifically. It’s possible she would find some other men’s sweat attractive as well, but I haven’t asked.
There is no scientific evidence to support that humans emit any pheromones, let alone a multitude of pheromones. Even if we did, we do not possess the vomeronasal organ that other animals have that allows them to detect them.
You don’t need a specific organ to have a reaction to chemical signals. A pheromone is just a chemical the body creates, and an external body responds to. That response can be due to smell, taste or even touch. No special organ is needed for any of those.
Yes… you do? That would be like saying you don’t need a nose to smell, or taste buds to taste.
No. Pheromones are chemical messages that trigger specific behaviour or developmental changes in an external body.
Smells and associations attached to smell are not the same thing as pheromones. In certain mammals and reptiles pheromones are received by the vomeronasal organ.
You’re trying to make pheromones out to be something not supported by the definition. Pheromones are chemicals created in one body, that have an effect in someone else’s body.
Dictionary definition:
Lol, the merriam Webster dictionary is not an appropriate source to define the scientific understanding of a word or term.
The biggest difference between a pheromone and an odorus compound is that pheromones have an Innate purpose and odors have responses learned through association.
By your understanding of the word pheromone the sulphuric odor in fart could be defined as a pheromone…
It looks like the receptor of pheromones is present, but doesn’t work. From [wiki]:
Your wife tells me that too.
Yeah, she loves her spouse so much she can’t help but repeatedly bring up details about her spouse which she appreciates in attempt to make the strange creep who’s hitting on her get a fucking clue.
But i don’t have any compunction to be subtle like her.
Bro she doesn’t like you. Stop bothering her and figure out literally anything else to do with your day other than hounding a married woman. You’re making her extremely uncomfortable.
If you still don’t get it, that’s your skill issue.
Dafuq?
It can be different when you know someone. But acquaintances and strangers? Nah that shit gross
I think the main issue is that there’s no such thing as human pheromones… so whether we might be able to perceive them if they existed is entirely academic.
We are however capable of smelling body odours, and some of them are linked to sexual attraction or mate suitability and only appear after puberty.
Pheromones are chemical signals that living organisms release outside their bodies to communicate with other members of the same species. If you think humans don’t release chemical signals, you’re mistaken. We don’t have them mapped out because their creation and their reaction are both highly dependent on genetics of the creator and the receiver, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
However, yes, the smells created by bacteria will very likely overpower any positive benefit your pheromones could possibly impart. Fresh pheromone creation is where it’s at.