• SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    Karl Marx was alive during the civil war. We know what he and his fellow communists thought about it. In fact, some of his fellow Communists were Forty-Eighters: German Radicals who were exiled after the failed revolutions of 1848, many of whom fought in the civil war.

    One of them was August Willich, an ardent Communist who thought Marx of all people was too conservative. A “Tankie” of his day.

    The German Communists, like Willich, who fought in the American Civil War believed that the war against slavery, and in the side of the Union, was a Social Revolution against the reactionary landed gentry of the south.

    Many Forty-Eighters settled in Southwest, Ohio. If you go to the rapidly gentrifying Cincinnati neighborhood of Over The Rhine, it’s called that because it was originally made up of forty-eighter German immigrants, who became active participants in the underground railroad, and helped set up social programs to educate freed slaves, and provide them with housing and such.

    So the only person lacking critical thinking here is you OP. You’ve made up a guy in your head, to get mad at.

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      1 hour ago

      Oh friend, you have this wrong, I agree 100%, sorry for not spelling it out! This meme is about the blind modern day teamist support for any “anti-west” regime, no matter how vile.

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      5 hours ago
      1. I am not OP
      2. but a Black anarchist vanguard. (Since you are on lemmy, so you can’t see my «Politics» label)
      3. I sat down to review all your historical assertions without a single citation (meaning, I won’t cite back if you don’t)
      4. Are there Achtundvierziger today, or similar vanguard parties? @[email protected] maybe projecting the trends a sees from camp threadiverse comments & posts, but do we even have a contemporary vanguard party doing praxis?
      5. PSL legitimately doesn’t count, so if you bring them as an example, we have nothing further to discuss.
      6. Could Godric have your permission to cite you instances of what a sees is campist rhetorizing moving forward, so you hold them accountable? I believe all of us🧵 want to end campism. I in particularly need to see Dengism邓理论 gone forever. I am NOT asking permission for myself, or that of Dengist reprimands. But if you can work with Godric here to hold campist rhetorics from at the least .ml when you see it.
      7. I am on this instance exactly because I have given up on 习 bootlicks. So honestly don’t bring it up.
      8. Any additional questions?
      • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
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        5 hours ago

        Any additional questions?

        Yeah, what in the ever living fuck are you talking about? This AI listicle-ass comment is genuinely illegible to me. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say

          • Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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            The ordered list in that comment serves no purpose, as the items are not even properly grouped. It just hurts readability.

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              3 hours ago

              They are grouped by topics 1 respondent, 2 politics, 3 literacy confirmation, 4 thesis, 5 warning, 6 intersection check, 7 commentary, 8 openness to dialogue

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                So, at the very least:

                • 1 and 2 pertain to the same topic. 2 even continues the same sentence.
                • 4 and 5 should be grouped together, as 5 refers to 4.
                • 6 and 7 should be grouped together. In part because they both are just regurgitation of propaganda made by y the same people that sold you on Nayirah’s testimony, Iraq WMDs and the like. (Also, have to chuckle at the “campism” but when you very openly engage in pro-NATO campism.)
                • Just using standard paragraphs and not an ordered list would be more readable, since you are not enumerating anything, nor is there a good case for referring to each of these items by the numbers outside of the conversation about how useless the ordered list is here.
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                  1 differentiates from op, 2 outlines my politics which may also differ from op. Continued sentences is something everyone does, no?

                  I can def. combine4&5, but will SpookyBogMonster keep quiet about point 4 if 5 is the only choice?

                  6&7 need to be separated, as 6 is my intersection for Godric’s plea to end campist rhetorics, not my personal antidengist praxis.

                  you very openly engage in pro-NATO campism

                  whence?

                  nor is there a good case for referring to each of these items by the numbers outside of the conversation

                  brevity, citation, referencing, value, formatting, etc…

                  I’ll edit an essay format you then.

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      A lot of people in the west think that Communists/Socialists are all leftwing, when there’s plenty of conservative traditionalist Communists.

      There just more modern and outside the us, in places like China, Africa, Asia, and South America.