• Nangijala@feddit.dk
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    In my case, i went back to physical media. Bought a blhray player and now my boyfriend and I are gradually expanding our movie library when we feel like it. Some movies and shows don’t exist on dvd/bluray, but that’s okay. I think there is something healthy about not having access to absolutely everything you want at all times. Besides, for me, there is also something satisfying in having ti get up from the couch and change discs and so on. I missed the physical aspect of watching movies and remember how much streaming services fried my fucking brain while i still used them.

    It was to the point where you barely register wtf you are watching because everything on streaming services is about the next thing.

    Movies werent movies on streaming services, but content and I heard people starting to refer to movies and shows as content at some point and was like “this is fucked”.

    Content. Content to fill the void. Not to experience or educate, enlighten or provoke your senses and morality. Just content to distract you.

    Ew.

    I dont mimd piracy, but i prefer physical media. I no longer wish to follow technollgical advancements. I want to go back and stay at a place where there was some level of conscious and physical effort to watch a movie. That way you remember it better, you slow down and you appreciate the piece of art in front of you rather than seeing it as content.

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        3 hours ago

        I’ll consider it! I want Pluto (2023) on dvd or bluray, but it is on lock on netflix and i simply refuse to subscribe to that shit. I have a soft spot for Naoki Uwasaki. He’s one of the only mangaka living today, who manages to tell stories that I like.

        But yeah, i dont know how piracy deals with language and subtitle options in today’s landscape. Because I prefer to have options and I’m not sure I could get a pirated dvd version where i can switch language and/or subtitles while watching.

        But thank you for the the tip, friend! I have starred your comment so i can find it if/when i look into it. 🤗❤️

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          It would be easiest to get a complete ISO file and just burn that to a DVD of course, but barely anyone is dealing in ISOs these days, if they even exist at all. You can take regular MKV or MP4 files and structure them into a DVD format with DVD Styler.

          For a lot of anime at least, look for releases tagged Dual-Audio or Multi-Audio and find the one with the dubs you want. Subtitle tracks are a crapshoot, because they’re so small and easy to edit, so you have to look at descriptions to figure out which ones are included and from which sources (official, fansub). This is less of an issue for non-anime, you’ll usually get every sub track from the original source.

          You might have to use Handbrake or ffmpeg to get your MKV source files in a format that DVD Styler accepts. (I saw it doesn’t list MKV support, but it is just a container format for all the things it does list.)

  • Fushuan [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 hours ago

    The real winners here are pirates because thanks to companies streaming quality media, we get quality pirated media the moment or hours later, whereas with film we had to wait until DVD until we got quality pirated film.

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      I definitely don’t miss cam rips. No movie was worth that wonky, noisy, messy version with bozo breathing into the cam mic and people standing up in front of you.

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    12 hours ago

    He skipped over LUSERnet and LimeWire, which was before 2007. Usenet was a big sharing community too before 2007.

    Piracy has always been around. It’s the underhand method of getting what someone wants. Empires didn’t mint coins because it was fun, but they needed to identify forgeries. Also, scales were used (and people would use lead) to trick it instead of coin.

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    18 hours ago

    Sometime around 2007

    Bahahaha! Oh, OP, please tell us you’re ≈20yrs old without saying it outright. 🤣

    To the point: I, and everyone I knew, was pirating everything they could —from the early 90s onward.

    Yes, all of us would’ve “downloaded a car” in a heartbeat (well, maybe a week of them, at those baud modem speeds. 😅)

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        Hey, when they started listing it as a prereq for advanced design courses in school, I was 100% not gonna let my clever brain sit idle as my poor AF upbringing cost me another educational opportunity.

        Fuck the Man, I crave knowledge and pursue it like it’s a civil right.

        (FWIW, why it isn’t is kinda essential to this whole thread’s point, IMHO.}

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      17 hours ago

      Our Apple User Group received a letter from Bill Gates back in the 1980s admonishing people for pirating his compiler. It was hilariously badly done.

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        How shamelessly ironic of him. 🤣🖕🏼

        (Get fucked by an undead horde, Gates. You’re trying to be the Democrat among oligarchs —which hasn’t aged well at all, ya pedo.)

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    Woefully inaccurate, the entire P2P file sharing craze kicked off by Napster all went down before 2007 and there were plenty of online piracy venues before then too like IRC, 90s copper internet was perfectly capable of all that. And I was torrenting movies right alongside my Netflix DVD rentals. Piracy has always been here and has never left.

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      It never left, but common folks decreased reliance on it substantially. When Netflix was popular my house of IT people slowed and almost stopped pirating video content entirely, there was no reason. After Netflix turned shit and half a dozen services sprung up, we cancelled Netflix and now pirate absolutely everything video. There was a slight drop while crunchyroll was good, but it becasue shit enough apparently that those in my family using it returned to pirating.

      Music didn’t shitify as much though, I feel it’s improved now. I have Tidal because it’s cheap and easy to find new music. I seldom find music that I can’t listen to on Tidal.

      Elegedly.

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    Piracy very much existed before the internet took off. Recording VHS, then burning dvd’s and cd’s, and the like. Many stores in the hood would openly sell burned cd’s even. Others out of the trunk of their cars.

    And the need to pirate never went away, fuck netflix, never had them, never will.

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      Recording vhs for home use didn’t even count as piracy i think.

      My dads friend group already wildly shared and copied commodore 64 games and music though.

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    suddenly Netflix

    You can’t give a history of online piracy and just entirely skip over music/limewire.

    Pirating music was very popular for the short period where limewire could be used without fear. Then corporations started suing the shit out of normal people. Then apple opened the iTunes store, and pirating music became more niche again. No more burned cds from tracks discovered on limewire, but playlists with paid-for music on an iPod

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      I have been pirating music all of this time.

      It’s only recently there are problems as the search engines don’t share good links anymore.

      Idk about limewire, but there are all sorts of cloned sites of places like mp3juices that offer music.

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    Netflix didn’t have a choice but to get into production and producers were going to see their money anyways and get into streaming. There was only one way forward that was sensible for both groups.

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    The order is a bit off. Production companies starting pulling their content from Netflix after they saw how profitable streaming services could be.

    This forced Netflix to start producing their own content.

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      forced

      That’s humanizing the corp way too generously. Nothing “forced Netflix to start producing [its] own content” but itself. 🤑

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          No. That’s still removing the onus from the corpos. Fuck that simping.

          re: your handle : I’d totally watch Uncle Buck as Paul Revere (or as the Duke of Wellington), FWIW. I guess I’ll have to wait until the Disney-Sony shite machine pushes it through their botfarm to raise that dead legend for the screen.

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            Simping? I rephrased my idea a bit for the sake of argument but I understand their motivation and their behaviour.

            I’d say you’re one to talk about handles with yours being some reference to Bill & Ted and Joseph Stalin but I think it might be lost on you.

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    OP must be a 2000s kid, because we were definitely pirating stuff over the Internet long before that.

    They also didn’t mention Netflix’s DVD service, nor that it was really Steam that did what they described.

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      I reckon Napster was the first instance of piracy entering pop culture and that was in the late 90s. Of course it existed long before that (think anti-piracy measures from PC games in the 80s), but I would point to that as the pivotal moment.

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      I would argue that what Steam did for video games is what Netflix did for movies and tv shows. They made the legal option way more convenient and affordable it wasn’t worth the hassle to pirate. That has changed now (at least in Netflix’s case).

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      I remember me being 14 and distributing stacks of 3,5" 1,44Mb floppies filled with copies of Doom to whoever wanted one, as long as i got the disks back later on

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      ahhh, the halcyon days of downloading Utada mp3s via dialup cuz no store outside of Japan, neither online nor brick mortar, even sold them.

      and bragging about it on AIM!

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      OP says ~2007 internet (asumming bandwidth and avail content) got good enough to become mainstem, not that I started around then.

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        It wasn’t that though. High speed internet was available before that time. What really affected things in 2006 was that peer exchange was introduced to bittorrent, giving it a massive advantage over other file sharing services at the time.