• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    What’s insane is that he doesn’t need to change up the playbook for keeping the discussion off him being a child sex trafficker who is, with the support of the Republican party, protecting other child sex traffickers and pedophiles.

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      I agree, as long as he’s in the mood for sharing, maybe he should try sharing more of the Epstein files too.

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      2 days ago

      To be fair both parties are complicit.

      Edit: to whoever downvoted this, are you aware that Biden was president after Epstein died? Also wasn’t Obama president after he was originally charged? They would have had access to any information that was available.

      I’ll agree that voters on the left want to punish everyone however, and people on the right are happy to keep voting for pedos. Most politicians from both sides are shit though.

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        are you aware that Biden was president after Epstein died? Also wasn’t Obama president after he was originally charged

        The problem with this point of view is it ignores that while Biden and Obama did some bad things, they overall do not seem to be bad people. Again… shitty things were done. But in general, they tried to follow the rules of their job. Republicans don’t care about rules, they only care about enrichment.

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          Uh no, if you do bad things, you are a bad person. That’s how words work.

          I don’t think that people that drone strike weddings and support a genocide are not bad people. YMMW.

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            13 hours ago

            Completely misconstruing what I actually said to project what you wanted to hear, but YMMV strawman.

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              4 hours ago

              Sorry, do you not think that Obama and Biden did those things, or you don’t think they make people bad people to do them?

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                do you not think that Obama and Biden did those things

                You built a strawman, I rejected it, so you added more straw.

                Biden and Obama did some bad things

                I said Obama and Biden did bad things. What part of that wasn’t clear?

                Motivation matters more than you are implying. I would prefer no one did anything shitty, but I live in the real world. A good person doing shitty things is infinitely better than a shitty person doing shitty things. The good person will show restraint and attempt to contain damage. A shitty person won’t care who get’s in the way or what happens, as long as they get whatever self-enriching thing they are trying to achieve.

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                  It’s not a strawman. You said they were good people. I’m saying good people don’t support genocides and drone strike weddings.

                  And you are willing to excuse that . . .

                  Motivation matters more than you are implying

                  Maturity is realizing that bad people think they’re the good guys too. Hitler thought he was saving the Germans and the world from the Bolshevik-Jewish menace.

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                    It’s not a strawman. You said they were good people.

                    Maturity is realizing that bad people think they’re the good guys too.

                    Sure, bad people usually think they’re the good guys. But maturity is realizing the world isn’t black and white to begin with.

                    Biden and Obama are shades of grey like everyone else. Obama did plenty of awful things. Acknowledging that doesn’t make him a cartoon villain, just like admitting he did good things doesn’t make him a saint.

                    Good people do bad things, bad people do good things. Put a drop of milk in coffee, it’s still coffee. Put a drop of coffee in milk, it’s still milk.

                    Funny enough, we teach this to children and is actually Christian doctrine that the Trumpublicans claim to believe in, but clearly don’t.

      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I’d rather step on some Democratic rabbit shit, than a colossal pile of human diarrhea that is the Republican Party though.

        Scale matters and both sides are not the fucking same by any reasonable measure.