E: this baby dicked Honda owner is laughing at the responses.

  • Zensate@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Because in karaoke your genital orifice is not penetrated by a foreign object for the first time

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      Karaoke is way more intense than sex if we’re being honest. Like the vast majority of people lose their virginity all on their own with no financial incentive, but a huge chunk of people wouldn’t sing karaoke ever, even if you offered them like ten bucks

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      So? Why should sex be special cased?

      Clearly not because

      it’s your first time doing something very intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming.

      because then we’d have karaoke virginity too. And many other things.

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        So for you karaoke and being internally penetrated is similar, that’s fine. But I’m assuming you have the command of your senses to realize that this is not a normal point of view, peobably not a healthy one either.

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          Similar in that they can both be, your words, “intense, intimiate and potentially painful and overwhelming.”.

          I’m going to argue that the “normal” point of view that holds losing your virginity as a big fucking deal (pun intended) is in fact unhealthy. It’s often bundled up with patriarchy. It really doesn’t need to have all the brouhaha. That creates a lot of misery and hangups.

          You’re not proving that it should be a special case. You’re just acting like it’s self evident.

          Incidentally,

          You need it to be with someone who cares about you so they can make it a good experience

          Also applies to karaoke.

          So I don’t believe you when you say

          It’s not some victorian-purity BS,

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            Yeah, go tell sone of your female friends in real life that karaoke is comparable to their first time.

            I’m sure you will, because they’re totally comparable and you’re not a troll, right?

            I’ll wait for your screenshot showing how they reacted.

            No further replies until then.

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                THANK YOU! I was tired as fuck when commenting and done arguing, but this really is what his comments boil down to:

                A man is telling women we are all traumatized when we lose our virginity.

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              Woman friend 1 said that it’s personal and for some people it’s a big deal, and not for others. Sex is unique in a lot of ways. She didn’t outright reject the karaoke comparison, but did emphasize that different people have different experiences and attach different meaning to it. She didn’t reject the comparison, but didn’t especially love it. Treating sex as meaningless has its own perils, she said n

              Woman friend 2 reached for “like doing LSD or mushrooms for the first time” rather than karaoke, but didn’t reject the comparison.

              Both reject purity culture and the idea of virginity as something you lose, and rejected your take from your top post.

              I’m not going to post screenshots because the conversations had a lot of personal details.

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              You’re doing a bad job of arguing. You made a claim. I offered a trivial counter. You’re not updating your claim. You’re just saying “nuh-uh”.

              You could try arguing that the degree is different, but as someone said that’s not true for everyone. Some people are really casual about sex! From the start! And some people would never, ever, do karaoke.

              Even if you were factually correct (you are not) your argument is structurally unsound.

              I’ll see what my friends say in the morning