Nah. We voted to have civil rights restored after sentence was served, but the government did an end run around the people (as usual) and said, “you mean sentence served and fines paid, right?” Then immediately started imposing fines of hundreds of thousands of dollars, really unimaginable amounts, so that it was impossible to ever finish paying them.
Maybe in local elections, but I always thought the whole point of the "FElon"title is to say you’ve committed a FEderal level crime, and therefore have certain rights stripped, such as voting and owning a firearm (notably, two tools that basically only affect people who don’t have huge normal power like political or financial).
“Felony” has nothing to do with “federal”, completely different etymologymies and meanings. A felon could be a state felon or a federal felon or both, it just depends which statutes they’re convicted of breaking. “Felony” is just a degree of criminality, higher than misdemeanor.
“Felon” just means they committed a felony. It doesn’t need to be at the federal level to be a felony. It’s just a more serious level of charge than misdemeanor.
A felony is traditionally considered a crime of high seriousness, whereas a misdemeanor is regarded as less serious.[1] The term “felony” originated from English common law (from the French medieval word “félonie”) to describe an offense that resulted in the confiscation of a convicted person’s land and goods, to which additional punishments, including capital punishment, could be added;[2] other crimes were called misdemeanors. Following conviction of a felony in a court of law, a person may be described as a felon or a convicted felon.
In many common-law jurisdictions, such as England and Wales, Ireland, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, crimes are no longer classified as felonies or misdemeanors. Instead, crimes are classified by mode of trial as indictable offenses, triable by jury, and frequently requiring a grand jury indictment, which are usually more serious, and summary offenses, triable by summary procedure without a jury and are usually less serious.[3]
In some civil law jurisdictions, such as Italy and Spain, the term delict is used to describe serious offenses, a category similar to common law felony. In other nations, such as Germany, France, Belgium, and Switzerland, more serious offenses are described as “crimes”, while “misdemeanors” or “delicts” (or délits) are less serious. In still others, such as Brazil and Portugal, “crimes” and “delicts” are synonymous (more serious) and are opposed to contraventions (less serious).
Surprisingly white/Europe centric, but still interesting.
What relevance does Clinton have to anything? There’s a bunch of random people in the files too; somehow, that the president is a child murdering pedo, some are more relevant than others…
When you pretend that’s not the case, 70% (at least) of people know immediately that you are not to be taken seriously.
(40% of voters are independents, they all know that Clinton and other Ds were in Epstein’s circle, along with Trump and Rs… 30% of voters are republicans, and they know that Clinton and other Ds were with Epstein, along with Trump and Rs).
You should be ashamed of yourself to put it all on Trump and ignore Clinton, just pretend that he’s not there. Revolting.
literally no one cares if Bill Clinton gets in trouble. have at it champ, it’s no excuse to leave Trump alone when he’s actually the person running the government.
That question reveals the extent to which MAGA is a cult of idiots. They expect people to be falling over themselves to defend Clinton because he’s “one of us” and that’s what they do. We don’t care. Lock him up if he’s guilty. Our ideas are not attached to any one person, so individuals can be held accountable for their actions.
No, you’re obsessed with Trump because you can’t square him. Aren’t the systems of civility and institutionalism supposed to stop that kind of guy? Total freak out, he’s mango Mussolini, he’s a Cheeto in the dang White House!!! In reality, he’s there because the business interests in this country like his meaningless word drivel spew which seems to make line go up for some reason.
All you’ve admitted is that the GOP has abandoned loyalty to the Constitution and substituted it with loyalty to Dear Leader. All those institutions were supposed to be interested in preserving their own role in government, and instead they’ve abdicated their responsibilities and ceded their power to the fascist kid rapist.
How can I get you to understand this is all within the framework of American capitalism and American “””democracy?””” There will still be elections in 4 years, and liberals will eat it up and maybe even fail to get a failson dipshit like Newsome elected. By that point the requisite decisions have already been made, without you.
Pointing out a technically true but similar but different issue that waters down the original message - it absolutely does.
I’m certain this wasn’t their actual intent, nor did they mean anything remotely like malice, more just to, like they responded, make a joke.
But my pointing it out I think is important, to correct our own problematic language, which heavily influences how we think and affect others. My correction was harsh, and could definitely have been clearer. But I do stand by the notion and the correction.
Thirty-four time convicted felon AND a SERIAL CHILD RAPIST
Florida allows felons to vote.
Nah. We voted to have civil rights restored after sentence was served, but the government did an end run around the people (as usual) and said, “you mean sentence served and fines paid, right?” Then immediately started imposing fines of hundreds of thousands of dollars, really unimaginable amounts, so that it was impossible to ever finish paying them.
Maybe in local elections, but I always thought the whole point of the "FElon"title is to say you’ve committed a FEderal level crime, and therefore have certain rights stripped, such as voting and owning a firearm (notably, two tools that basically only affect people who don’t have huge normal power like political or financial).
“Felony” has nothing to do with “federal”, completely different etymologymies and meanings. A felon could be a state felon or a federal felon or both, it just depends which statutes they’re convicted of breaking. “Felony” is just a degree of criminality, higher than misdemeanor.
“Felon” just means they committed a felony. It doesn’t need to be at the federal level to be a felony. It’s just a more serious level of charge than misdemeanor.
Hmmm, worth looking up…
Per Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony):
Surprisingly white/Europe centric, but still interesting.
I can only speak to US law, but state level felonies exist. Individual states have their own felonies that may vary state by state.
Which should be enough to explain the difference.
And a murderer. In the Epstein files he literally participated in an infanticide
I’m not religious, but from the definition, the guy is actually evil.
Call them the trump files.
Clinton was a friend of Epstein, too.
Why does he get a “child molester pass”, friend?
Whataboutism
What relevance does Clinton have to anything? There’s a bunch of random people in the files too; somehow, that the president is a child murdering pedo, some are more relevant than others…
He certainly doesn’t, but
He hasn’t held office for 26 years.
He’s not the individual currently covering up the files.
He’s said he wants them released. Defensive strategy? Maybe.
To my knowledge, nobody has ever come forward to accuse Slick Willy of raping them as a minor.
Because he is not currently ratfucking the entire planet. When the Clinton’s get voted back into power then you can come and talk to me about it.
Epstein and Clinton hung out a lot.
When you pretend that’s not the case, 70% (at least) of people know immediately that you are not to be taken seriously.
(40% of voters are independents, they all know that Clinton and other Ds were in Epstein’s circle, along with Trump and Rs… 30% of voters are republicans, and they know that Clinton and other Ds were with Epstein, along with Trump and Rs).
You should be ashamed of yourself to put it all on Trump and ignore Clinton, just pretend that he’s not there. Revolting.
Trump-Clinton files. Say it.
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literally no one cares if Bill Clinton gets in trouble. have at it champ, it’s no excuse to leave Trump alone when he’s actually the person running the government.
That question reveals the extent to which MAGA is a cult of idiots. They expect people to be falling over themselves to defend Clinton because he’s “one of us” and that’s what they do. We don’t care. Lock him up if he’s guilty. Our ideas are not attached to any one person, so individuals can be held accountable for their actions.
Trump, on the other hand, is a THIRTY FOUR TIME CONVICTED FELON AND A SERIAL CHILD RAPIST
WE KNOW.
IT WENT TO TRIAL.
EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED.
BEFORE A JURY.
COUNTER ARGUMENTS AND EVIDENCE WERE PRESENTED.
THEY GAVE EVERYTHING THEY COULD.
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No, you’re obsessed with Trump because you can’t square him. Aren’t the systems of civility and institutionalism supposed to stop that kind of guy? Total freak out, he’s mango Mussolini, he’s a Cheeto in the dang White House!!! In reality, he’s there because the business interests in this country like his meaningless word drivel spew which seems to make line go up for some reason.
All you’ve admitted is that the GOP has abandoned loyalty to the Constitution and substituted it with loyalty to Dear Leader. All those institutions were supposed to be interested in preserving their own role in government, and instead they’ve abdicated their responsibilities and ceded their power to the fascist kid rapist.
How can I get you to understand this is all within the framework of American capitalism and American “””democracy?””” There will still be elections in 4 years, and liberals will eat it up and maybe even fail to get a failson dipshit like Newsome elected. By that point the requisite decisions have already been made, without you.
Has Clinton been in the government in the last 20 years? Is he actively covering for pedophiles? Is he trying to destroy our democracy?
No?
There’s your answer.
He raped more than children, equal opportunity rapist
This comment gives “white lives matter”
No it doesn’t.
Pointing out a technically true but similar but different issue that waters down the original message - it absolutely does.
I’m certain this wasn’t their actual intent, nor did they mean anything remotely like malice, more just to, like they responded, make a joke.
But my pointing it out I think is important, to correct our own problematic language, which heavily influences how we think and affect others. My correction was harsh, and could definitely have been clearer. But I do stand by the notion and the correction.
Apologies, not my intent. Making bad jokes as usual.
I appreciate you apologizing on that, thank you. I can probably be less harsh, too, so sorry for that.