I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because “I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it” which is ridiculous. This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?

  • JustPlainDave@lemmy.zipOP
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    US companies ≠ USA

    Also, the companies that initially supported Germany did so mostly in private and cut ties when war was declared and their factories were seized by the Nazis.

    US strategic bombing deliberately avoided hitting ford and GM owned plants in germany.

    That’s an urban legend with minimal Truth behind it. While the GM plant was completely leveled, the Ford plant only received structural damage, though it’s supporting infrastructure was destroyed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rüsselsheim_massacre#%3A~%3Atext%3DOn_the_night_of_August_25%2C_the%2Cput_out_the_fires_in_their_homes.%3Fwprov=sfla1

    During World War II, Rüsselsheim, an industrial town that housed many key targets, including the Opel plant, was bombed several times by the Royal Air Force (RAF). The RAF followed a policy of “area bombing” of cities at night while the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) relied on “precision bombing” by day.[1]

    i’m an anarchist; believe it or not i have plenty of complaints about the USSR. those are beside the point right now though.

    Conveniently beside the point.

    • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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      US companies ≠ USA

      i don’t see it that way, if the US state department is turning a blind eye to these things i hold them responsible.

      Also, the companies that initially supported Germany did so mostly in private and cut ties when war was declared and their factories were seized by the Nazis.

      of the 350,000 trucks used by nazi germany for logistics 1/3 of them were made by ford, ford-werke was not seized in any meaningful sense, it continued operating as a war production facility under a german management board while ford motor company retained majority ownership throughout the war.

      the nazis appointed some german managers and ford lost day-to-day control, but ownership was never transferred, they maintained 56.575% of ford-werke. the claims they made were as the claimant owner, not a dispossessed party seeking return of stolen property.

      re: the GM plant, not contesting it got bombed, though it was wild that they got the US government to pay them for destroying their factory making shit for the nazis.

      the ford plant was mainly the one i was thinking of for getting little/no bombing, as detailed here, the damaged was mostly from artillery due to it ending up on the front lines, the bombing only hit labor camps and proving grounds


      When members of a combined U.S. and British intelligence team visited the plant, they discovered that the main building had suffered little structural damage. The blast from bombs and shells caused extensive superficial damage, and hardly any glass remained intact. No gas, electricity or water was available, which made an investigation difficult. One large building housing stores and offices had been gutted.

      The postwar custodian, Erhard Vitger, suggested in a report that most of the damage, which he attributed to artillery fire, was done to less crucial buildings – sheds which housed the Receiving Department, the Experimental Department, the Laboratory and repair shops. Additionally, Vitger’s report called for the replacement of the damaged “Garage.” The recreation hall, wooden office buildings and 12,000 square meters (129,167 square feet) of the “wooden buildings (formerly used as foreigner camp)” were described as destroyed by artillery fire.

      According to a postwar inventory of the plant, the fighting around the plant during the push through Cologne “caused damage to buildings, factory equipment, fixtures, cables, and materials, etc., stored in the factory in the amount of about RM 3,000,000.” This figure is supported by an inventory report prepared for Ford Motor Company by the Office of Lord Percival Perry, who had served on Ford-Werke’s board of directors before the war. Lord Perry’s report, written in September 1946, stressed that “damage to the main factory by artillery and mortar fire towards the end of the war, proved to be extensive but superficial.”


      Conveniently beside the point.

      from my perspective you’ve been engaging in holocaust denial and repeating nazi propaganda by insisting on dehumanizing people of the USSR with all the human wave tropes.

      if you weren’t doing that i’d have more to say to you.