What is stopping you from both asking the one who is willing to help AND trying to find a second solution on your own?
You don’t lose anything by voting.
You’re really bad with metaphors. The second person is holding your head down.
How about I draw you a picture.
No one has said anything about voting. We just don’t support the oligarchy, which consists of right-wing Democrats and right-wing Republicans.
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It’s crazy. I wasn’t sure it was a thing until it happened to me. And there’s never a response.
vote blue no matter who
In case you missed the metaphor, Blue is the one saying, “Don’t drown for the next 40 years because I’m going to eventually save you,” and they’ve been saying that for 100 years
Even in this metaphor, voting blue makes the most sense until people decide to break some windows
Yes dying is out best option. jfc.
Nothing disgusts me more than billionare “philanthropists” who pledge to give away 70%-90% of their wealth to charities AFTER THEY DIE… While these MFs REFUSE TO EVEN PAY 5% TAX NOW and keep hiding their wealth and fucking kids offshores!
AND guess what charity do they choose to donate it to after they fucking rot 6-ft underground? IT’S THEIR FAMILY-OWNED FOUNDATION CHARITY!
Every fucking billionare does this same trick to horde untaxed wealth for generation after the other. Or Elon who wants to go to Mars to “save humanity” , while doing jack shit to save humanity now and paying billions to support and keep Nazis in powers everywhere in the world.
So Fuck you Bill Gates, Fuck you Warren Buffon, Fuck you Zuck and Besos and every billionare philathropists who claim they will donate after they fucking dieThis is a pretty shitty and convoluted analogy not gonna lie.
Poster is a mod of this community and has apparently been deleting comments willy-nilly.
If that’s the case, you’re a shitty mod not worthy of talking about late stage capitalism and perhaps your community is shit as a result of your actions and insecurity.
If it’s not true, I apologize for all that lol
Dont follow the rules, gets comments removed. OUTRAGED
Especially when we have perfect good, simple analogies about Democrats already.
“It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”
Comments have been removed when they break the rules, we just have a massive influx of reddit liberals who are too used to the idea that they’re exempt.
thanks for disclosing the political motives of moderation
that takes guts
Those motivations being “enforcing the rules”
You are the ratchet effect personified.
except the second guy tells you he will save you incrementally, but you know he’s lying and is sitting on the car as it slowly sinks in. the first guy is the reason you in this mess in the first place.
don’t go with either of them
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These are not the only options. Savings yourself is an option.
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What is the point of Lemmy if the comments are just gonna get removed bruh.
Useless thread
OP is the mod removing comments calling them out for their terrible takes. VOTE.I think lemmy.world is probably worth avoiding in general. Consolidated power in one instance is no better than Reddit.
We have to use one of the big instances, in our system the small instances don’t have a chance and if you don’t use one of the two big ones you’re basically throwing your comment away
Or you could just not engage with communities whose rules you don’t want to follow.
Saying “Republicans need you not to vote” being against the rules is absurd.
Then by all means, find a different com
There’s a context where that’s fine and there’s a context where that’s supporting the Democratic party which is unambiguously against the rules of the community. Read the sidebar, understand the rules and the culture before posting. Lurk more.
Echo chambers gotta echo.
Damn, how dare a com have rules. I bet none of the other ones do…
What is the point of Lemmy if the comments are just gonna get removed bruh.
I mean, the sidebar is pretty clear on what this comm is for and what is going to get deleted. The mod isn’t exactly subtle; libs just keep not getting it.
Follow the rules and leave your political liberalism at the door and comments won’t get removed
How about trying to explain your reasoning and try to get people to understand your perspective instead of insta-banning them and making them think that you are a dick and probably believe in things that dicks approve of.
This is not an education forum. This is a forum specifically for leftists. If you are leftist, you already have a position that is understandable in a leftist space. The problem is liberals that are not leftist coming into leftist spaces trying to co-opt them and neuter them to get us to support their right-wing candidates. All throughout the history of socialism and communism, dating back a few hundred years, the only ones that were allowed to participate in leftist spaces were ones that already understood the principles.
To join the Black Panther Party in the 60s, you had to be black and you had to be a communist that understood the principles of communism and have studied and researched it to a specific level. If you did not, you simply were not allowed in, You were allowed no input, you were allowed no influence, you just simply were not allowed in. So to enter leftist spaces you need to do the work to understand our position before you enter our space. Or be willing to learn by asking questions, not throwing demands at us.
When I get told by a neo-liberal I’m a baby, an idiot, and they’re glad my vote doesn’t matter and tells me to just not vote because I call them out on their bullshit shows it’s a door the swings both ways at least.
Seriously, I’m blocking this community.
Thanks for playing.
Okay that was always allowed.
I wish I could tag communities with Voyager. I’d use tags like “deletes a lot” and “women only” so I’ll know to read only.
You could save yourself the hassle and just follow the fucking rules
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Remembering inconsistent rules is the hassle from which I’m trying to save myself.
Point out a single inconsistency
My friend, I’ve provided two examples already. I don’t have a problem with community-specific rules, this is just a UX thing.
You have provided nothing
Unless he was an intentional troll/bot , then please let them talk and let us downvote or reply to prove them wrong. There are no Karma internet points in Lemmy
Liberalism is toxic to liberation. They are poisonous, and if you allow a poison to spread, it kills everything.
There are a million and one places where you can “hear both sides”, and two million and one where our side is banned. We would like to have a one corner where we don’t have to relitigate the same tired talking points for the millionth time. Are you really missing out on that much by not seeing another dozen comments calling anyone critising the democratic party a Russian bot?
Your side isn’t banned anywhere. Your side bans everyone else on hexbear and lemmy.ml. That’s where this community belongs, not on lemmy.world trolling normies.
If you really believe that then there’s no point in having this discussion because you just live in a completely different reality
Ah yes voting is when something completely irrelevant…
I understand the analogy, its a you problem.
One Choice: Near instant death drowning
Other Choice: Live but it takes too long to get where you want to be.
Huuurrr Dduurrr THeSE ArE thE SamE
You don’t seem to understand how respiration works, or analogies.
Try this.
We are Radcliffe.
Democrats are Dano.
The whole point is that you don’t live with either choice
your dead either way
You’re also dead even if you never go off the bridge, we are all mortal.
Either case you end up at the bottom of the lake
This is how I feel when it comes to climate change especially. The other issues are important, but the difference between getting M4A now and later is the people it can’t help now. That’s still important, but with climate change we’re hurtling towards a disaster we won’t be able to pull back from if we keep waiting. Every time we get a Dem where the best they can do is maybe undo some of the damage the Reps caused I just feel such despair.
OMG the main comments are disappearing. Can’t understand what people are arguing anymore.
Because this community knows they can’t argue their positions on the merits.
If you really want a com where rule breaking comments aren’t removed, you’ll have to make it yourself.
Did I say I want that? I just said you can’t defend your positions on the merits. I was simply describing the situation, which explains the odd “rules.”
God forbid we want a com where we don’t have to refute the same bad faith liberal bullshit ten thousand times over.
You think anyone who argues with you doesn’t believe what they themselves are putting forward? Because that’s what “bad faith” means; it’s not just a buzzword that is synonymous with “wrong.” That’s a pretty self-serving view. One that would be easily demolished if you ever allowed the real world to penetrate your bubble, even once, much less ten thousand times.
No, that isn’t what bad faith means.
One that would be easily demolished if you ever allowed the real world to penetrate your bubble, even once, much less ten thousand times.
Given that I have engaged with it extensively, no it wouldn’t.
If arguing points you don’t believe in isn’t arguing in bad faith, then what is? Making points you don’t agree with?
Disappearing because they keep arguing in favor of the people that’s caused our current situations
Now your car is the geographical size of the United States. Its sinking like 1 inch per year. Everyone else in the car is a douche bag.
They murder anyone who says that the car can be saved if we just stop letting it sink.
What politicians want us to believe:
Voting: changes the system
Doing politics: it’s for professionals
How it really works:
Voting: the possibility to kick bad persons out
Doing politics: changes the system
Only locally, at least here in the US.
Nationally you have no power politically unless you’re a billionaire or available for purchase by a billionaire. Thankfully, at least locally, good things are still possible.
There are safeguards in place to prevent change
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What has voting for the fascist pigs gotten you other than more poverty, more homelessness, more war, more debt, less freedom, more oppression?
Several studies have shown voting does not influence policy or politicians.
Can you link to those studies?
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In this context “not voting because it doesn’t matter” would be sitting in the car until you drown
