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    It’s not like ice was literally killing protesters execution style in Minneapolis or anything. This post is dumb

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    I know this is a shit post, but I wanna say just trying to reach DC through the maze of motorways, roads, and such puts a damper on directly protesting there easily without organized bus services. The logistics of trying to rebel without just sending armoured vehicles in crashing through everything is pretty gnarly.

    I think we’d be better off taking to the streets to governor residences and state reps. Going to the capitol in an organized fashion for intentions portrayed here is just a logistical nightmare.

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    You guys need to chill on the hate. A good amount of hate is fine but y’all becoming redditors.

    It’s starting to look like Europeans can’t tell where the front door is or the backdoor is. It’s like these protests are supposed to result in yes daddy and yield results. Sorry, you’re reading history books to tackle modern day issues.

    I seek the down votes. They let me know you read my unpopular opinion. Also I do enjoy traveling to Europe.

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    pretty highly localized if i might add, its not like the whole US goes to protest at the same time. also media is strictly controlled by conservatives so you will never see it even if it got larger, which would been avoided if people voted for A d IN THE FIRST place. theres plenty of people in my blue area that are quite dismissive and complacent about the “protest” in the US, because it doesnt affect them.

    No escalation in the protests at all.

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    The thing about America is, for every person who cares, there are 3 idiots with guns who would love to be the next Kyle Rittenhouse. They aren’t even all republikkkans. Just boot lickers with a murder fantasy

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    The White House doesn’t look like that anymore. It is a construction site. That’s what you get when you elect a real estate manager twice.

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      A real estate manager who literally isn’t smart enough to learn how to wipe his own ass.

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    These threads are full of useful idiots and propagandists shitting on Americans.

    I’m so bored by this nonsense. At least get more clever if you’re going to try to divide all of us.

    The way I see it, we’re all in this together. Even the Russian people are my ally if they oppose fascism and corruption. These are my people… All people who want a better world.

    But sure, enjoy your indulgences if this thread is your thing. May your lives be as short as Trump’s should be.

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      …ook…and now what are you americans doing for your allies? …

      and on a side note I find it odd that the Russians havent rebelled violently against Poo-tin. Its Loooong overdue. Dude’s a nearly useless goof.

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      “Russian people” speaking language of russian propaganda? Im russian in some sense, so can you tell me how our society is fighting fascism (the democratic republic protecting its own soverignity you mean? Because they used to have 1 seat in the parliament for one fascist). Or maybee because of CIA helping Yeltsin save his power and eventually put bunch of oligarchs with Putin as a president. And now having a war because militarists can profit from it , and it is just fun for a brainrot dictator. Never mentioning cooperating with corpocracies like china and vietnam, that disappear their people for attempting to create independent workers union.

      You see, it is hard to not fall into pit of idealization and polarization, meaning, instead of having nuanced socialist view, you prefer tankies that were quite popular at the time. And you are likely american so you have no idea what post-war consensus was. But you might know Chile before CIA-assisted coup.

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            I’m surprised everyday by what my fellow US Americans want. I imagine it’s not much different than what propaganda the average russian citizen believes.

            There are people in both countries that know what empathy is, and understand they’re being lied to though.

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              Yes, USA and Russia are similar. Trump won 2 times in USA same as Putin won couple of fair elections before they stopped being fair. Both USA and Russia are full of bloodthirsty, racist people that believe they live in the greatest country in the world. It’s not an accident that brutal dictators raised to power there. It’s a direct expression of the desires of their citizens. Only when the oppression starts to affect them personally they begin to see the light.

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          No I wouldn’t say the Russian people are the enemy either. But their autocratic government invading Ukraine aren’t exactly high on my list of potential allies.

          It’s not the Russian people that were fighting, but we should be fighting autocracy wherever it happens to be, and it happens to be in Russia. Being allies isn’t like being sister cities. Our autocratic govt is in bed with their autocratic govt.

          • that were fighting,

            Sorry, what trench in Ukraine are you posting from?

            but we should be fighting autocracy wherever it happens to be, and it happens to be in Russia

            Are you American? Because your country is currently engaged in war crimes, and you can fight it plenty well from there.

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          Adding to your post, the protesting, this is a classic idea everyone has. Have you ever lived there, then shut the fuck up. Because in places like this you have to shut the fuck up. You can have an opinion to yourself otherwise you’re going to the front line.

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          the biggest lie ever told.

          People always say 'belgh blehg blerg bleg governement ≠ belgh blehg blerg vleg people . People have gotta stop spoiuting this bullshit line cause Im too tored of it. Carlin said it once:

          "Now, there’s one thing you might have noticed I don’t complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. Fck Hope. Because if it is really just the fault of the politicians then where are all the other bright people of conscience? Where are all the bright, honest, intelligent Americans ready to step in and save the nation and lead the way? We don’t have people like that in this country. Everybody’s at the mall, scratchin’ his ass, pickin’ his nose, takin’ his credit card out of his fanny pack and buyin’ a pair of sneakers with lights in them. So, I have solved this little political dilemma for myself in a very simple way. On Election Day, I stay home. I don’t vote. Fck ’em! Fck ’em! I don’t vote. Two reasons. Two reasons I don’t vote. First of all, it’s meaningless. This country was bought and sold and paid for a long time ago. This shit they shuffle around every four years? Pfft! Pfft! It doesn’t mean a fcking thing. And secondly, I don’t vote because I believe if you vote you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around, I know. They say, ‘Well, if you don’t vote you have no right to complain.’ But where’s the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people and they get into office and screw everything up, well, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem. You voted them in. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand…who did not vote…who did not vote…who, in fact, did not even leave the house on Election Day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain as loud as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with. So, I know that a little later on this year you’re gunna have another one of those really swell presidential elections that you like so much [Bill Clinton v. Bob Dole]. You enjoy yourselves; it’ll be a lot of fun. I’m sure as soon as the election is over your country will improve immediately. As for me, I’ll be home on that day, doing essentially the same thing as you. The only difference is, when I get finished jerking it, I’m gunna have a little something to show for it, folks.” – George Carlin

          These are Russians and Ukranians from Russian and Ukranianian homes, businesses, schools, soldiers who instead of just saying “Fuck it” and conscientiously objecting in jail in the millions and millions together in brother and sister hood choose to do their fucking parastic bitches biddings . How long do you think this war would go on for if only the politicians threw their bloody parasrtic asses at each other? … I heard the same said anout the needless Iran-Lebanon-Yemen war…

          Heck even the last surviving WWI veteran talked about this: He said something along fhe lines of: “I still feel about the war now as I did then, that I wished that these fucking politicoans were the omes who picked up the guns and artilerry and blew up each other.”

          The Common People outnumber the politicians, the billionaires , the bribed mercenary class traiitor pigs in the hundreds and even thousands. The Common People can clearly ALWAYS come together and absolutely de-fucking-molish the fuxk out of all these war mongerers and create numerous societies that are created by the Common People and work for The Common People, Societies That Works For The Workers !..

          …The people choose not to do this… Every second …of everyday… Why they choose not to do this? Meh! Ive asked a couple and its always bullshit reasons here and there. Heck, Ive met some people who acrually enjoy being exploited like this.

          The people indeed ARE their government . The people at any moment could substantiate substantial effort to permenanently change their society for the better , to substantially change society to favor them and our hard work . We have the dream , we have the hands , we have the numbers… but we dont have the courage (or even the thinking capacity it seems) . Instead we would rather just be complacent and let these parasites throw us at each other in needless air raids and invasions or shoot at each other over a couple thousand dollars in random gang wars here and there…

          Fuck outta here with this garbage line.

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      At least get more clever if you’re going to try to divide all of us.

      Is the opposite is the goal? reunite US against the empire?

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      No it begins in the large cities when a critical mass of people don’t want to abide by the given rules anymore instead they want to write their own.

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    BS Americans were getting shot execution style protesting ice. Do we need more protest and civil disobedience? YES but this is garbage

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      Ewww civil disobedience?!

      “Nobody should self-immolate for Gaza. Symbolic acts only have an effect when your enemies are humans and ours are not . Instead if youre already sure you want out, you should… ??? idf veterans in your local area.”

      You think symbolic acts of civil disobedience will make a difference? Actually , you know what? I want the americans to keep on and keep on doing it. Ha! Theyre already doing this and they did it during the Civil Rights riots (my favorite part of the Civil Rights Riots were how nowadays non-White americams are still NOT treated like humans and STILL not reparated). Let us see what changes for for the americans in the next 50 years… 🍿🤭

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          …ok… and now let us watch as the Serbian bourgeoisie install ANOTHER dictator. Or install a placeholder who gives the Serbian people a few treats here and there and then their successor … takes all those treats away 🤭🍿😏

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    I mean sure, ignore the protests from earlier this year where millions turned out across the nation, but sure…

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      Sorry to comment twice. But are you actually real? Like a human with breath and a beating heart? You don’t fundamentally understand that difference here? These people are fighting, the “demonstrations” in America have had zero bite, and any real fight in them has been squashed by their own people. You HAVE to see that.

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      And did what? They didn’t disrupt anything. Parades on weekends are good for raising awareness, I’m not going to say they are useless. But they are fundamentally different from the other examples given.

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        yeah they didn’t set fire to anything and cause a right wing backlash that help pro putin and islamist oligarchs internationally

        standard lemming sigh

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        Gotten shot and killed by lowest-bidder wannabe cops, who faced zero consequences. And our wannabe dictator said there would be no consequences for killing protesters. The reality is living conditions aren’t bad enough yet for most people to be willing to risk that.

        So as it turns out, violence and fear tactics do work…

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          I’ve often been surprised at how living in America is perceived by the world. I’ve met a lot of people from all over the world, and while some have actually spent enough time here to understand the good and the bad. The rest who have not seem to believe in the shiny veneer that we export in our movies and television.

          We are absolute wage slaves here. We are one missed paycheck from homelessness. But sure, blame the slaves for not overthrowing their owners.

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            I want you to say this same line to a Haitian person in 1804. Or to a Cuban person in 1959. Or to a Russian person in 1918

            The amercans indeed are not the healthiest or best paid of all wage slaves om planet Earth today…but their access to spec ops knowledge and to weapons would put most of the world to shame. Heck the average american could put a Hatian person in 1804 or a Cuban pwrson in 1959 to shame with the access to shit they have…and yet…these americans never want to anything about their slavery. 😂🤣

            I guess this must be what the americans want seeing as how they never want to substantiate any substantial changes to improve their lives and the lives of others who their mercenaries are currently blowing up as I type this 🤷🏿‍♂️

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            I dont understand the logic though so please help me here. I have lived in the US and do have a good idea of how shitty things are (or were even back then). Things will not improve by inaction and are objectively getting worse. So yes, you risk a lot by acting but if you dont your life will continue to get worse and you’ll end up homeless anyway. Or worse.

            No one is coming to save you. You live in the most powerful country in the world. Nobody is going to come in and liberate you. Your only option is to save yourself.

            Nobody is claiming it will be easy, simple, or clean. But what other option is left? This is why the rest of us are baffled. Especially since the US has built up the reputation of having a rebellious spirit. Where is that spirit now?

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              I can make this simple: would you be the first to step in front of the firing squad when you have no idea if others will join you in rushing it?

              We are not a united people here.

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                Indeed you are correct.

                AMD in 1954 Che Guevara actually came up with a speech that explained everything you need to know about the current americans’ ‘rebellious spirit’ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-H5m_BeJoQA&pp=ygUkd2h5IGFtZXJpY2FucyBkbyBub3RoaW5nIGJhZGVtcGFuYWRh0gcJCTAMAYcqIYzv.

                (Im going to add that Im baffled that Many people think that wearing a fucking costume is rebellious enough to substantiate any aubstantial positive changes… WTF?!)

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                This might be it, because you do pay change for the better with blood, the history is filled with it. The army is brought in, it goes overboard and they open fire on protesters, in every country everywhere throughout history, before people realise what’s happening.

                Good luck Americans, this seems to be your turn.

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                I know that. No one is saying you as an individual need to do this right now. We are saying you need to organize. I think this is a cultural misunderstanding.

                When I say ‘you’ I am not referring to an individual. Im referring to you as a people. Maybe that misunderstanding is evidence of the hyper individualism your country has subtly snuck into your lives that prevents you (again a collective you) from doing so.

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                  What did you think I meant by, “we are not a united people”?

                  You can’t organize peace with people who idealize a fascist society

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              No one is coming to save you.

              Yeah, because they’re all too busy enacting fascism in their own country to do anything about the growing US threat except lick boots. Save us? Lmao you better be thinking about saving yourself once the consequences start rolling in.

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                Strategically, the best option other nations have to solve the American Problem is to prepare to weather the storm and let the country collapse by itself.

                Historically what’s going on now with the US is a pretty straightforward “fall of the Empire” scenario (the biggest Empires invariably fall from internal problems as the generations that created the Empire are replaced by generations which know nothing more than wealth extraction) and interfering with that is a great way to be targetted as a scapegoat by the falling empire’s elites and suffer the side-effects of that empire’s death throes.

                Looking from the outside, even if Trump is stopped, the problem will at best be delayed since the other party of the Power Duopoly that controls America is also deeply corrupt and done their part in the decay of that country for the last couple of decades (by weakening unions, deregulating Finance, unconditionally saving big companies, having Financial and Economic policies which reward Rentierism above Work, and so on) - Trump is not the malaise that’s killing America, he’s a symptom of that malaise and removing him will not solve the problem, will not stop another one like him to take over in the future and will not alter the trendof decay, only the speed of it.

                As for the idea that Fascism is taking over in other countries, well, the rest is well behind the US in it and it’s exactly the point of the OP that people in other countries are already starting to push against it, well before it gets to the level seen in the US of jackboots (for the US that would be ICE) going around arbitrarilly arresting and even killing people.

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                Seriously. The global ultra rich are all working from the same basic playbook. It’s just happening here first due to the extreme concentration of wealth.

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                  No, I meant this part:

                  do anything about the growing US threat

                  “No one is coming to save you” is such a petty, disgusting thing to say when the people you’re looking down on are being turned into the cogs of a machine that has the entire world in its sights. The world needs to save itself from us.

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            You are wage slaves who have a higher standard of living than the other wage slaves that are exploited in order to enable the availability of cheap consumer goods which keep the people docile.

            This is about the English (and written in 1882) but now also applies to the USA:

            Engels wrote: “You ask me what the English workers think about colonial policy. Well, exactly the same as they think about politics in general. There is no workers’ party here, there are only Conservatives and Liberal-Radicals, and the workers gaily share the feast of England’s monopoly of the world market and the colonies.”

            This is an expert from Lenin: Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism which I think should be read prior to Settlers if only to disarm the reader from defensiveness. Sakai didn’t invent the idea of the bourgeoisie proletariat, he was building on the ideas of others.

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          Protests are not the only option, but when asked why Americans are not making meaningful resistance the argument always boils down to: We have protests! Or We can’t protest!

          Perhaps the most cursory look at why these actions are successful in different countries is worth a gander. It’s not that France couldn’t crush every protest with their military.

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            The difference is the US 100% will and won’t even apologize for it. Then the state oligarch run media will say they were “Terrorists”. Hell, the black lives matters protests in Oregon they spent weeks showing the “devastation” the protesters caused, it was like one square block and they had police dressing like protesters instigating the violence so they could disappear people.

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              News are circling around the 3% (some are allegedly undercover cops, some are from fascist groups, and more ofc.) that break things, so yeah France is doing the same thing. No talk about why, only about that poor person that got their window smashed. 24/7.

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              Mainstream media are doing exactly the same in France and they all belong to, oh wait, some right wing billionaire.

              It’s almost like someone somewhere is showing the user manual to the others.

              Edit: It’s even worse than that. They are saying all the bad guys are extreme leftist from LFI (the most successful left party), gouvernement is somewhat implying the same and some officials even said they should remove this party from power and the upcoming presidential election. They are trying to make the opposition illegal and pave the way for the Fascist. It’s a fucking shit show, of course we need to riot and burn the system, that’s the only thing they are afraid of.

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                Yea, unless I miss interpreted you were saying yes France could crush protests, my point is that they most likely won’t, where in the US they will, and people know they will. see Kent State.

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                  My comment was that protests are not the only option and if you look at why the protests in the other countries are effective, it might give you a little hint about non protest actions that would be useful.

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          Lol

          But a genuine comment because people think I’m a big meanie:

          It’s helpful to know that folks aren’t alone and also helpful for orgs who are already doing things to improve the material conditions of their community to get some publicity and maybe some new helping hands.

          Maybe then america will realize they have power, and the revolution might not be exactly the same as their last one

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                  I think you might be misunderstanding my comments or maybe I’m misunderstanding yours because I am very lost.

                  I added the “protests aren’t totally useless” thing as a way to combat defensiveness after I replied to the top level comment comparing recent US protests (such as No Kings) to the protests shown in the meme. It’s absurd to compare the two, and not because of the violence that occurs at them. The reason the type of action shown in the image can be impactful is because there have specific goals and targets in contrast to what amount to an awareness campaign or parade.

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          If you go your whole life hearing it’s your god given right to have all the privilege and comfort you have (which is still a pittance in comparison to the rich but more than the people exploited to provide cheap goods) it’s hard to risk them.

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      I’m so tired of this idea that these sparse, scheduled, legal events are considered protests.

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        which sparse ones are you referencing? It seems like you are wondering why CNBC isn’t showing you all the local protests even in conservative towns?

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          I genuinely do not understand this level of delusion…

          Look, these protests are ineffective. Period. They’re nothing more than photo ops for social media. I don’t care if they’re happening everyday and the news isn’t reporting, they are not doing anything to alleviate any of the issues this country is facing.

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            Yeah obviously they haven’t successfully overthrown Trump yet. What is delusional about me telling you the revolution will not be televised?

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        I’m tired of the idea that looting stores and burning public buildings is an effective way to protest.

        Most protests in Europe are also legal events. You ask for permit to march through a city. Only in some places rioters started destroying things. So far peaceful protests in Spain forced government to pass housing laws requested by people and call snap elections while all riots in France achieved is curfew.

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          Spain has a left wing government (the last time I looked at least) they play by the rules it seems (people ask, government provide as it can).

          In France the right have sold out the country to the rich, more or less stole the prime ministers seat (after the snap elections it should have gone to the left, surprise surprise it didn’t) , they couldn’t care less about housing prices and so on.

          So when you say france only obtained a curfew you show that you don’t understand those two countries political landscapes.

          The fight goes on ✊🏼

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            if you think that spain has a lefy wing government then you meed help.

            spain’s government is capitalistic. There will NEVER be left wing capitalism cause its actually impossible.

            Left wingedness places humans at the centre and gives each individual human greater abilitiy to say what they want with their lives. Left wingedness makes more leaders , and it even turns the workers into leaders. This is why left winged exrremism is called ANARCHY, cause then there are no leaders. Right wingednesses centres the rich and their materials. It makes less leaders. And last time I checked pain has only one president . This is why right winged extremism is called AUTOCRACY, one leader.

            Hecl even wikipedia itself calls you out. on your idiocracy . DOnt even believe anything I just typed go to wikipedia right now and type in left wing and right wing politics and then show me how anything I just typed is wrong… I can wait 🍿🤭

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              Dude you live in Dreamland.

              We other people actually try to change things by, you know, actually doing something.

              No need to vomit wordsalads at me 😁😂🤣

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            So when you say france only obtained a curfew you show that you don’t understand those two countries political landscapes.

            What else did they gain? After the riots support Le Pen grew. You really think this is good for the left and our fight?

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              It’s just the beginning.

              French gvt just offered a rework on university selections which is one of the students demands, and more space in unis for more students, which is also something demanded.

              So what’s your deal, lay back on the floor and do nothing?

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                Yes, they will gradually change university selection. Elections are in May, Macron is basically saying “the next person will do something about it, trust me”.

                What they should have done? I would say same thing as in Serbia: organize, mobilize, build support for people they want to see leading the country and get them elected. Burning schools and public buildings achieves nothing.

                It’s sad that people no longer understand the difference between working towards some goal and violent lashing out. Hopefully lemmy is just an echo chamber fetishizing violence and most people are smarter than that. Hopefully we will see more countries follow Spanish example than the French one.

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                  Oh so you’re one of those people. You think you are 100% right, and absolutely nothing will change your mind.

                  No need to discuss further, because you are just changing your tube to any new information that contradicts what you said before. For example if I say we already do mobilise, build support to elect Glucksman, you will only spew some other bs.

                  No need to respond.

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    Well we had No Kings protests. Police have shot and killed our citizens in the process of that. In my area, during a protest, police grabbed, dragged, and shot a protestor point blank in the eye with a less than lethal gun (he’s blind now)

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      the point is there is no escalation from us protestors when that happened, Occupy wallstreet pretty much showed oligarchs have nothing to be worried about, they can shovel culture war into social media its enough to distract people.

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      “guys, we went on a permitted march in favor of slightly less shitty authoritarian neoliberals, what more do you want?”

      Nobody was shot and killed for No Kings. What the people were shot and killed by ICE for was direct action of rapid response against ICE.

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      Yeah, and the freedom people who once frothed at the mouth about wanting to fight tyrants are now probably the ones shooting protestors happily now.

      All for the tribe.

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      We had a similar per capita rate of participation in No Kings as France has had in its recent demonstrations. But the US has a much lower population density over a much larger land area, so the protests appeared smaller despite having millions more people in the streets.

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      Yeah, that’s the thing about a protest, it doesn’t help unless you have a structure to harness this energy. When police started shooting at protesters in Ukraine in 2014, several political and activist organisations banded together with people, and together they used this fear and anger to resist and ultimately win.

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        Well political activist organizations were already banded together going to No Kings protests when those citizens were shot, for some reason we’re not winning yet

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          I am very plugged in on the American politics, and yet I have no idea which ones you can mean. This means that either those organisations are small enough so they don’t even break the local social media barrier, or they were so quiet after that, they didn’t even try to do anything on any public level.
          Two people were executed on the streets by the regime, and the reaction was less severe than when a shitty musician was shitty.

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            its likely its too small to even get bigger in the news, also because conservatives controls most of the MSM as well, it will hit the news, its all “look what trump did that make him look stupid” gaffe everyday.

            i noticed after the protests, people just went home like no news after that, they treat it like they were working a shift a store, 8hrs here, 8 hrs there and then done. also these are Planned protests, so you get what you “paid for” and likely kept on a tight leash by the DNC and MSMs to not escalate further. it allows them to have release valve when something schumer-hakeems and congrees does something terrible voting with the GOP.

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              exactly. These peaceful protests rarely ever substantiate substantial changes. The literal largest per capita protest in american history didnt do shit.

              What does this tell the americans?

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                  And maybe, protests do very little in America because ruling class aren’t afraid of the public that much

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      And people have lost their eyes protesting the redesign of a train station here in Germany. Clashes with law enforcement are to be expected when you protest the government. You don’t tuck in your tail because of that.