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    Remember: Every single person you see attacking Hasan by spreading hoaxes that have been debunked already, like the dog-zapping one or him being a “rich socialist. All socialists and communists must have 0 dollars in their name” are all 100% MAGAs. People who benefit, support and love the Jeffrey Epstein Class.

    Every single one of them.

    At this point, if you are still someone who disagrees, attacks, loathes or dislikes Hasan, you are a genuine piece of garbage who is only getting millions of innocent people killed in silence. For example, us Mexicans, we are losing 30,000+ people every year thanks to the Iron River Americans (especially Republicans) keep funding with their taxes. Same shit pours down to South America, same shit is done to the Middle East and Africa. There are a lot of dems who are American Exceptionalists and want this violence and control over third-world countries to continue, so they attack Hasan too. They are traitors and murders.

    Hasan is the only American influencer that has brought attention to the Iron River the same way he does for Gaza 8 hours every day. These people hate that, because they all love killing innocent people. Every single American Exceptionalist does at this point.

    That’s what Hasan haters are. Absolutely every single one of them, do not waste more time talking to them, they are worthless monsters.

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            I agree with him on a very very fundamental level. He is the left equivalent of some guy just screaming everything he’s sees on fox news or his Facebook group, calls people slurs and just talks without thinking. The only reasons he is were he is is that he has money, there aren’t many prominent more intellectually capable people in the left community in the US, and the bar to being a decent politician in the US is incredibly low.

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              It’s not money that has 40k concurrent viewers tuning in every day.

              If he was what you portrayed him as here, people wouldn’t watch him in the numbers they do.

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                And the fact that one of the most prominent figures on the amiracan left is some fucking streamer doesn’t make it better.

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                  Honestly? The fucking left and the Dems could learn a thing or two from Hasan about reaching people where they’re at. The Dems have done SHIT to reach out to younger voting blocs.

                  Remember Harris’ team coming up with a 6 7 theme for the relaunch of her image? It was pathetic.

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                  Attacking the platform he uses to reach people is always a sure fire sign of an ironclad argument.

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            And so are you, but worse, because you actually do not do shit for the innocent, but tone-police the few voices that do. Not only that, but if you started doing shit, and then you became famous, you’d have to deal with an endless amount of harassment, insults, and even death threats everyday. That shit would exhaust you too, and turn you arrogant (or worse) whether you like it or not, because you’d be repeating yourself over and over again, you’d get mad that you have to explain it so many times, unless you are like ChatGPT; a servile robot with no emotions who is always happy to answer with a smile. I doubt you are that resilient and good, so. Why should we care?

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              You have an unhealthy obsession bud, your idol gets paid a lot of money for repeating himself. Much better people have it much harder

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                Who are these much better people on the left?

                Who are you listening to other than Hasan right now? I’m honestly curious.

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                  Why are you looking for someone to listen to in the first place? And on twitch of all places? 95% of the worlds population lives outside the anglosphere, which is certainly not the cradle of socialism…

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        You just want to keep killing 30,000+ innocent Mexicans every year. Palestinians too. That’s why you want us to stop talking about Hasan. He is the only twitch streamer who brings awareness to the Iron River and Gaza when nobody would.

        You are just a fucking murder. You sound exactly like the Mexicans here who support the PRI, the most corrupt political party of all. They too use insults like these, about being parasocial or obsessed with the candidates who can actually bring a difference. You are garbage.

        People like you are costing us thousands of innocent people every year. When the fuck are you going to find the “perfect human being” you so yearn for, eh? You dumb motherfucker. What is next? “Vote blue no matter who” and the “who” is Gavin Newsom? You like that shit? Kamala, the corpo shill? Jeffrey or Schumer are your heroes? Those are the people we should trust according to you? Or who?

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          “Eather you like him or you want to kill thousands.” You are arguing as bad as fascist populists.

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            Why? You don’t like that I am bringing awareness to problems you thought you had forgotten? Like the Iron River?

            It makes it harder for MAGAs and American Exceptionalists, blue or red, to defend their country. It proves that they are worse than terrorists.

            I will never stop. This is the least I can do for the family you took away from me. You probably will never understand because you are privileged and profiting off our deaths. You keep killing over 30,000+ Mexicans every year, because that way we stay depressed, weakened, in panic, in fear, under your control, under your below-minimum wages, the cheap hand labor we give you and so on. You don’t want people like Hasan to succeed because he is fucking with that bag.

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                Yup. MAGA. They all run away like this. They never answer. Their brains short-circuit, they cannot dismantle or argue against any of this.

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                  Yup. Doesn’t like you. Must be a 100% MAGA despite all the leftist and progressive stuff he’s posting. Please get a brain to think for yourself.

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      Nah, I don’t like MAGA at all, I’m Canadian.

      But I do recognize Hasan is just running a MAGA style grift.

      I also recognize you’re unable to accept any criticism of a wealthy grifter the same way that MAGAs defend Trump, another wealthy grifter.

      You’re upset about the declining quality of life. You should be. THinking some rich guy that’s just saying controversial things on social media is going to make your life better? Feeling like it’s important to vehemently defend a wealthy social media grifter? Yeah that’s what MAGA is really about.

      You’re just being angry about people not liking orange kool-aid and saying they must like the strawberry kool-aid. Y’all are drinking the kool-aid down there. Which flavour you prefer doesn’t make you any better than the other people drinking the social media kool-aid.

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        What is the grift? Teaching class consciousness for free? Are you an idiot?

        He’s also rich out of donations for doing that for 8hrs everyday. Motherfucker, you’d never take someone with 0$ dollars in their name seriously anyway. And comparing a billionaire pedophile like Trump to Hasan is so fucking stupid I don’t even know where to begin.

        Spreading class consciousness is what is helping candidates like Zohran and Abdul win, you imbecile. What Hasan is doing is working. You just want people to give up so they do not learn new shit anymore and stay ignorant, because for you, it’s easier to exploit dumbass people.

        Hasan is one of the only influencers online that bring attention to Gaza and also the Iron River, in my country, Mexico, which is getting 30,000+ innocent people killed by the 200,000+ firearms the USA and you, Canada, pour into our country. You just don’t want Hasan to spread that awareness, because you probably have stocks in those companies that make the bullets and bombs, and you’d lose money.

        You are the MAGA, the fucking cultist dumb piece of shit who benefits the Jeffrey Class. You don’t even have valid criticisms about Hasan. Which are they? That he made a lot of money? The 9/11 comment? What is it? You got nothing. You are an idiot.

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          Teaching class consciousness for free?

          Dude. He’s a streamer making millions of his fans. He isn’t doing this for free.

          I much rather get my class consciousness from someone less obnoxious and less psychopathic. (And someone who doesn’t shock his own dog)

          Edit: Future reader, don’t bother. It’s bot all the way down. And I get pretty spicy with my comments.

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            The 4 day old account is calling other users bots?

            Mhm.

            Tell me, who are you getting your class consciousness from that is less obnoxious and less psychopathic? You must have recommendations for who to watch instead, right?

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            Oh really? I been watching him for 2+ years now, without spending a dime. When am I getting grifted?

            And who? And why do you keep spreading that MAGA hoax about his dog too? You are a MAGA?

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                Aha, like helping people like Zohran Mandami or Abdul win? Those “populist ideas”? So what if people spend on him? He deserves it for the awareness he spreads 8 hours every day. If he was broke, you would still insult him the same, so, who cares about how much money he has? It is not even a lot. Someone like penguinz0 has more than him, double the amount, and he doesn’t do anything positive with it. At least Hasan is tanking a lot of moronic imbeciles like you who don’t know any better.

                “Surface level class consciousness” like rallying for Palestine right after October 7? When people like you didn’t have the balls to do so because you still believed American propaganda about Israel being the good guys? Or the attention he brings to the Iron River, which is costing my country, Mexico, over 30,000+ innocent people every year? Is that why you want him to fail? Because you have stocks in companies that profit off war, like Boeing, General Electric, Daniel Defense, Lockheed Martin, Colt, Glock, etc.? He is fucking with your bag. You hate that, don’t you, you little racist cunt?

                Dude, the imbecile who started the dog hoax was Dan Saltman. That dude gives money to people like Ethan Klein, Asmongold, Nick Fuentes. He openly admitted he started that hoax, you want the video?

                I am not a tankie. I openly wish Putin gets killed. You are just a moron with no real convictions or values. You are garbage.

                You have not answered yet: Who do you recommend we watch? Are you a Destiny fan or something? Are you too shy to mention your “perfect political commentator”?

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                  so, who cares about how much money he has?

                  I mean, as a communist one should care, right?

                  Class consciousness is hopefully not only against a group of people you don’t like, but all rich fat fucks alike.

                  Surface level class consciousness" like rallying for Palestine right after October 7?

                  No, like when he travelled to China and praised it like it was heaven and how he regularly continues to do so. China is not a communist country. It’s a one party run capitalist country with some socialist policies in place. Obviously ignoring the uyghurs suffering. He picks and chooses what’s trendy and doesn’t stick to his morals. No self-respecting communist will spend so much money on bourgeoisie pleasures. He’s a Grifter.

                  Dude, the imbecile who started the dog hoax was Sam Altman

                  What, lol. No. I saw it. Sam altman didn’t tell me this.

                  He openly admitted he started that hoax, you want the video?

                  If it’s a YouTube video.

                  I am not a tankie. I openly wish Putin gets killed.

                  If that’s the case, I take back what I said. But your uncritical admiration for hasan is still worrying.

                  You have not answered yet: Who do you recommend we watch? Are you a Destiny fan or something? Are you too shy to mention your “perfect political commentator”?

                  I never told you not to listen to him. You can continue to watch him dude. I am not your dad. If you find him enjoyable that’s great. Just don’t blindly believe everything he says, especially if he doesn’t follow what he preaches.

                  I don’t have a messaih I follow or to recommend to you.

                  But if you want a direction, I’d highly recommend you to join you local communist party in Mexico and organize get togethers and do critical reading of marx’s work. How to apply it in modern age. Or you could plan and take part in marches for rights labors in Mexico.

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    Say what you will about the guy, but there’s no better way to get the right-wing trolls to come out of the woodwork than to say his name.

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    Never knew who this guy was until the right wing women all wanted to fuck him and it exploded on the internet.

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    We need way more of this. Republicans are constantly lying and slandering people without consequences.

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      He’s one of those “People you agree with but say it in such an insufferable way you want to disagree” type of people.

      Says politically good things, is very hot, but is also a smug douche.

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        Dark gods yes! He and Vaush have some (some) pretty good takes but damn, they are insufferable. And Hasan is a bit of a tankie on top of that. He has a pretty shit take on Ukraine.

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          Vaush

          The guy who is self-admittedly into bestiality and loli porn? That guy?

          Gross.

          While reacting to a video by Jubilee regarding rape culture, Vaush claimed that Rape Culture exists, that every woman he knows has been sexually assaulted and that reports of sexual assault are not being taken seriously. In the next ten seconds, Sydney Watson talks about her sexual assault story and that the perpetrator was non-white, of a certain religion, and did not get charged due to Cultural Differences. Ian then screamed, “Bullshit!” and accused her of using her trauma to perpetuate the “rapefugee” narrative. The clip was shared to Twitter by Sydney’s friend Brittany Pettibone, and it went viral. Sydney responded to him in Isaac Butterfield’s response video to him.[19][20]

          Ian Kochinski is often accused of being a pedophile. The most common claim rose from a statement that he made about Child Pornography and Child Slavery, where he compared the exploitation of child slavery under capitalism in third-world countries to child pornography, to emphasize the double-standard in where we are easy to condemn child sexual exploitation but turn a blind eye to child labor exploitation, to illustrate how society is far more accepting of child exploitation which is economically beneficial.[12]

          In a hypothetical explaining why rule utilitarianism condemns pedophilia, Vaush said: “it is possible for an adult and a child sexual relationship and for it to have positive outcomes on the child as well. That is possible, however (…)” [13]. Vaush has stated that, if economic inequalities are mended under communism, that it could be justifiable to lower the age of consent to 16, like in the UK. [14] In addition, Vaush has stated that he supports child sexual abuse material in that it is not immoral.[15] On 11 June 2023, Twitter user @Marxist777 make a thread, accusing Vaush being a pedophile. He made a response denying the allegations to this 2 days later.[16]

          He was also caught with AI generated CP on his computer [17]

          Discord discord messages from 2019 were found of Vaush talking about his desire to have sex with horses.[23] In February of 2024, Vaush accidentally opened his porn folder while on stream. He quickly closed it, but the screenshots were shared on X/Twitter and led to ridicule, due to the content of the porn, which included bestiality involving a horse, as well as 2 pieces of Lolicon pornography, which Vaush had previously denounced.[24]

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              No problem. It can be hard to keep up with how these guys are shitbags. Figured I can use my chronically online status to spread some truth.

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          It’s a shame that Vaush’s more combative style of speaking alienated so much of the left wing, because he does do really good political analysis and also advocates for such organizations like Progressive Victory.

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            combative style of speaking.

            All he does is controversy bait. Alienating people on the left isn’t some unfortunate accident, it’s intentional. Controversy sells.

            When you say something edgy, you get three types of viewers. The first type is neutral people who see an argument or controversy and want to be informed about it. The second type are people who see certain groups get “triggered,” and they hate those groups, so they like you because you make people they hate mad. The third group are the haters who hate-watch you, either to more accurately criticize you, or because anger is addictive. Clicks clicks clicks. You don’t get any of those clicks by just saying good reasonsable things that people can agree with.

            I have heard all kinds of things about Vaush, but I have never once heard someone talk about any genuine insight that they got from watching him. Even people who like him only ever seem to make vague allusions or talk about how he offends the right people or how there’s actually justifications for what he does and says if you actually watch him, but typically the entire conversation is dominated by all the attention-grabbing bait he puts out rather than any actual insight or analysis.

            Streamers and YouTubers do this shit constantly. Whether it’s Contrapoints randomly shitting on vegans or Bad Empanada saying trans people just want to feel oppressed or anything Vaush ever says, it’s all the same shit. It’s just drama, it’s just clickbait. And it displays, in each case, prioritization of building their own audiences over any notion of building a mass movement. It also indicates that their content doesn’t really stand on their own, that they have to use those approaches.

            The only leftist streamers or YouTubers I’ve actually learned anything from are ones like Shaun (not very active anymore, though I see he just put out a video) who don’t engage in that shit.

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              I’m curious where you got that from him, considering he’s been rather consistent in denouncing that.

              As for the “taxes” folder, he made an entire hour long video talking about his previous controversies, which you’ve mentioned in another comment here. I’d recommend giving it a watch, since most of them are timestamped, and I found it rather informative.

              https://youtu.be/yXZw9vrsAgA

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                I’m not interested in what Vaush says here. What was shown on his own stream when it was revealed he kept loli and beastiality porn was enough for me.

                This kind of argument that the age of consent should be lowered and that children aren’t always harmed when adults rape them is disgusting. Destiny, Vaush, all of them who believe this have no place on the left. Or shouldn’t have a place.

                Why do you defend these types of views?

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              For those familiar with Hasan but not Vaush: yes, really, not in the “Hasan advocates for 9/11” sense. This one is real.

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      A social democratic Twitch streamer prominent for supporting social democratic or progressive liberal candidates in primaries against more establishment democrats.

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      He’s a leftist political streamer on twitch. He has been at it for many years now, and has recently been the target of many a smear campaign by conservative (and lots of liberal) media, especially after he campaigned with some leftist candidates throughout the United States in the recent primaries. Including Mamdani, and Abdul El-Sayed to name a couple. He comes off a bit like a dude bro, and has said provocative things. But personally I think he has lots of fantastic takes.

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      He’s not a particularly well-known figure outside of streaming platforms, but I’ll quote a previous post I wrote to give an attempt at a rounded impression of him. It’s from another thread so there’s some parts of it that might look a bit less relevant to this one, but here it is:

      "I think everyone who knows some about him will have an opinion on him - I’d call him divisive. I’ll try to give a relatively neutral rundown - I’m not a historian or researcher on this subject so my knowledge is likely to have holes.

      I don’t have time to treat this like a dissertation or adding citations, but I’ll try to present things as neutrally as I can and then you (or anyone else reading) can decide to further research any of the points as you see fit. I am not the final authority on this, just someone who’s dug a little more into this than the average person, and who has no strong feelings for or against the person in question.

      He is a political twitch streamer. He ties himself to, and uses the language of, the far left and related candidates. He backs and campaigns for progressive candidates which often raises awareness and donation for them, but the effect seems to be limited - some candidates he backs does well and others do not. He also seems to make plenty of statements that directly contradicts the candidates he backs and campaign for, causing some of them to try to distance themselves from him.

      He appears to be well-versed in U.S. electoral politics, media framing, and progressive political arguments, which tracks with his bachelor’s degree in political science and communication studies from Rutgers from 2013. Being a streamer he ends up talking about a lot of related subjects, in which he often has to give off-the-cuff opinions and takes, which can often fall well-short of informed or accurate.

      He says his end goal is communism. He got his start as a content creator in his uncle’s online news channel (The Young Turks), before later splitting off from them and doing his own streaming business. He is from a very affluent family, personally earns a lot of money and he clearly lives an affluent lifestyle. He claims to thrift for designer clothes but when pressed appears to reference outlet stores and similar. Initially he claimed that he doesn’t want his regular thrift stores to get raided by fans, although his fans might be less affluent than him and therefore better served by access to these stores. He has done several very successful charity streams that amassed large amounts of money for good causes. He claims to donate great amounts of money to charities, although the amount of donated money that can be tied to him is very low for his level of wealth, somewhere between 77.000 - 80.000 USD total (0,5-1%) of his estimated wealth, which is 8-14 million USD. While he does not appear to put his money where his mouth is, he does spend some of his time on popular fundraising, which drives a lot of attention to both him and the causes he fund-raise for.

      He is often abrasive in his communication, although he will excuse that with passion for the subjects he talk about. He has a large audience that aggressively attacks dissenters or people Hassan expresses dislike for or disagreement with. The harassment from his fan base appears to be significantly above and beyond the norm for the space, and while he comments to the contrary it would be hard to believe that he is unaware of the dynamic between him and his fan base. From what I can tell he has taken no steps towards solving this dynamic beyond disavowing some instances of the harassment, while condoning other instances. He does not appear to have a problem with lying about people or broadcasting random people (even known malicious actors, that he himself states to be malicious) on twitter or twitch if it fits his narrative.

      He often breaks the rules of his streaming platform (twitch) but receives special treatment, although I am unsure if that is due to personal popularity or personal relationships with the owner of twitch.

      He denies using a shock collar on his dog, but looking at the evidence gathered through old videos, still frames from new videos, and from people who personally interacted with the dog would suggest that to be a lie. I do not know if he still uses a shock collar on his dog since the latest controversy.

      As said, feel free to research each of these points, but do be critical of the sources of information and try to just find the actual evidence of what was done or said, rather than peoples’ conclusions. He is divisive so when people give their take they usually either dismiss all the criticism and focus on the things he does well, or dismiss the things he does well and focus on the criticism.

      Find all the evidence you can and make up your own mind."

      Now, as for this case it looks like Hasan Piker is substantially more correct than Scott Jennings. Snopes did a good write up of the evidence, so I’d recommend looking at that directly, if you care about the issue.

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        He denies using a shock collar on his dog, but looking at the evidence gathered through old videos, still frames from new videos, and from people who personally interacted with the dog would suggest that to be a lie. I do not know if he still uses a shock collar on his dog since the latest controversy.

        Shock collars don’t even work on dogs like Kaya. Their fur is too thick around their neck. You’ve completely fallen for a smear campaign.

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          Shock collars don’t even work on dogs like Kaya.

          Then somebody probably should’ve told Piker that.

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              I’m not the one spouting fallacies.

              Stating that shock collars don’t work on that breed does not preclude Piker – fool that he is – from erroneously using one in a fit of rage. It’s a monumentally terrible argument. Try that fact on for size.

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                They don’t work because shock collars need to make skin contact and Kaya’s fur is incredibly thick around her neck because of the mix of breeds she is.

                That you think Hasan is being propped up by the CCP is telling.

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                  Tell me, what breed is Kaya?

                  And what source are you citing that they do not work 100% of the time?

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          That is untrue. If the shock collar has the wrong types of prongs or if it is poorly fitted, it might not reach the skin well enough to make constant contact meaning that at some presses it wouldn’t work very well, but you can get models that will make contact even with thick fur.

          You can’t simply dismiss the point without willfully, or otherwise, ignoring how shock collars do and do not work.

          Now, based on the video where Hasan Piker gave us the best look at the shock collar, the best match would be the Educator RX-090, as confirmed by their own support team. Feel free to check this link, scrolling down to the section named “What the manufacturer’s support says”. The whole article gives a decent rundown of the evidence as well, but it’s a longer read.

          This particular model might be an “extra poor” choice for Kaya given that Tibetan Mastiffs do tend to have doublecoated furs with a thick, whooly undercoat, but that is a common mistake people make when buying shock collars.

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            You people are so fucking dumb.

            There is no way those prongs would hit Kaya’s skin. I know that because I have a family member with the exact same brand of collar. Those prongs are pretty short, and you wouldn’t even fucking bother. It is an excellent noisemaker for the dog. You can use it for long-range calling. It makes a loud beep and buzzes really well, and pretty much every dog is going to react to that.

            Combine that with the “evidence” given, anyone that believes he shocked his dog is dumber than a box of nails. Wow, someone here said they looked at stillframes! Motherfuckers do the exact same thing as moon landing denialists and flat earthers do. It is insane to me that a fucking 15 second clip is groundbreaking evidence these fucking mouthbreathers give for a thing that even if it was true, would be relatively fucking minor to them, but goddamn do they fall for the same shit every time.

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              Yep. Feel free to criticize the actual approach the person took or try to disprove it though. I don’t really care where things come from, if the method is good.

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                Also all this time spent replying to me when you could have been sourcing your claims.

                You’re not a serious person.

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                That’s a fucking blog with no sources either. It’s an opinion piece with no meat, no substance, nothing.

                Medium is not considered a good source in any space with serious adults talking about real issues.

                This “article” is as useless as your AI block of text about Hasan with 0 sources.

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              I am not particularly well-versed in those guys, so I can’t speak to their findings, but at a cursory glance I don’t see a link between anything I’ve linked and them - I am happy to be corrected if there is something I’ve missed.

              However, until you bring any kind of evidence, I will rely on Hitchen’s Razor here: “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”

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                Stop working for these people.

                Dan Saltman is a tech entrepreneur and political podcaster who leverages his platform to advance Zionist interests, targeting pro-Palestine voices and justifying Israel’s ongoing settler-colonial project in occupied Palestine.

                As founder of TinyChat — a video chat platform acquired in 2014 after receiving $1.5 million in funding from Sean “Diddy” Combs, amid allegations of its use in predatory behavior — Saltman built his career in online communications. He now serves as CEO of Redact.dev, a service that deletes users’ digital footprints, which he promotes amid his own involvement in online activism. Saltman co-hosts the “Anything Else” podcast with Steven Bonnell II (Destiny), where he discusses politics and amplifies pro-Israel views to Western audiences.

                Saltman has repeatedly portrayed pro-Palestine advocacy as support for terrorism, directly accusing streamer Hasan Piker of promoting “terrorist propaganda” and “Hamas recruitment videos.” In September 2025, he endorsed calls to ban Piker from Twitch, claiming Piker’s content encourages violence and supports terrorist organizations, while framing criticism of Israel as antisemitism. This rhetoric dehumanizes Palestinians by equating their resistance to Israel’s occupation with inherent threats, perpetuating consent for settler violence.

                Saltman orchestrated a widespread disinformation campaign against Twitch, accusing the platform of fostering antisemitism by allowing pro-Palestine speech. He mobilized supporters to pressure advertisers, leading to temporary pauses in spending by companies like JPMorgan and AT&T in late 2024. This effort aimed to suppress voices critical of Israel’s actions in Gaza, where the confirmed death toll exceeds 40,000 — a conservative estimate, as Israel’s destruction of infrastructure and targeting of journalists has halted accurate counting, with the actual number slaughtered well into the hundreds of thousands. Saltman’s actions align with broader Zionist efforts to weaponize antisemitism accusations against dissent, shielding Israel from scrutiny over its apartheid policies and ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and Gaza.

                His associations extend to content creators like Ethan and Hila Klein of the H3 Podcast and Destiny’s community, with whom he has collaborated on attacks against Piker, viewing him as a threat due to his effective advocacy for Palestinian liberation. Saltman’s push to repeal Section 230 appears motivated by a desire to further censor online criticism of Israel. Twitch banned him indefinitely in November 2024 for “extreme harassment,” including doxxing and targeting employees who refused to comply with his demands.

                This pattern of behavior is not isolated but part of a consistent effort to normalize Israel’s settler-colonialism, obscure Palestinian suffering under occupation and genocide, and manufacture public consent for ongoing violence.

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                  Why did you give the link and then copy the whole contents as well? That seems very redundant.

                  I don’t see how Dan Altman is relevant to any evidence I’ve brought fourth - I didn’t use him as a base for any of my evidence, nor reference them in any claims. Can you tell me how he’s relevant to the subject at hand? (Hasan Piker)

                  Edit: “Dan” instead “Sam”, partial typo and partial "slip of the tongue"due to the similarity of their names.

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                This is also how I know you’re arguing in bad faith. Destiny, Dan Saltman, and Hasan have extensive history together.

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                  Firstly: I don’t really see how Hasan Piker having history with other streamers is relevant to anything I am writing about?

                  Can you clarify what you’re getting at, and how Hasan Piker having history with other online personalities invalidates anything I have written, all of which ostensibly does not seem to have anything to do with that?

                  And secondly: Can you tell me how I am arguing in “bad faith” (i.e. NOT arguing from a genuine examination of the issue), when I tend to give evidence for my case, clearly referencing actual research done, rather than just repeating something I’ve been told (without evidence)? Quick clarification: that last part is not an accusation that you are just repeating something you’ve been told - I have no proof of that and I am still hoping that you show anything you have to actually back up your beliefs.

                  I really don’t mean to be offensive or mean, but I think if have the option to take a moment to re-read some of the messages and look up the definition of “bad faith” arguments you are likely to see that either; A: I have in fact been arguing in good faith, and/or B: You might not have been entirely aware what it means to argue in “Bad Faith”.

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                  Thank you for the links.

                  For the first link: I don’t see the relevance. It talks about starting a rumor, but I do not reference any rumoring in my posts. I reference try my best to reference things with factual evidence backing it up. Can you help clarify how it is relevant? - I already know Hasan Piker is divisive he’s seen as a boogeyman to some and a savior to others, and this just seems to reinforce that, but nothing else.

                  For the second link: What part was the relevant one? - The part where they briefly talk about the shock collar issue, but doesn’t actually address any evidence for or against? I’ll be honest, I don’t really see the relevance for the rest. It just seems to be a negatively slanted video about Destiny and Sam Altman, which isn’t really relevant to what Hasan has or has not actually done.

                  On an interesting but separate note, I find the editing of this video interestingly similar to the CNN video that cause Hasan Piker to sue Scott Jennings - I truly feels like the editing of some of the video-clips they use are pushing a very clear narrative, but one that doesn’t seem to be supported by the clips they use, or at least wouldn’t be if the full clip was shown. That said, I am not familiar with the original clips or particularly familiar with the people in question, so I can’t speak to anything other than the video-making style used for the video, which is something I am familiar with, as I have worked with storytelling in editing via my profession.

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                Never once cared, heard, anything Dan Saltman said. I saw it with my own eyes. I saw Piker change his story on this as well. Not exactly a good sign.

                I highly encourage you to stop perceiving the world through the lens of a twitch chat and simping for streamers.

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                  If you care about politics, you should care about Dan Saltman.

                  https://reversecanarymission.org/person/dan-saltman

                  Dan Saltman is a tech entrepreneur and political podcaster who leverages his platform to advance Zionist interests, targeting pro-Palestine voices and justifying Israel’s ongoing settler-colonial project in occupied Palestine.

                  As founder of TinyChat — a video chat platform acquired in 2014 after receiving $1.5 million in funding from Sean “Diddy” Combs, amid allegations of its use in predatory behavior — Saltman built his career in online communications. He now serves as CEO of Redact.dev, a service that deletes users’ digital footprints, which he promotes amid his own involvement in online activism. Saltman co-hosts the “Anything Else” podcast with Steven Bonnell II (Destiny), where he discusses politics and amplifies pro-Israel views to Western audiences.

                  Saltman has repeatedly portrayed pro-Palestine advocacy as support for terrorism, directly accusing streamer Hasan Piker of promoting “terrorist propaganda” and “Hamas recruitment videos.” In September 2025, he endorsed calls to ban Piker from Twitch, claiming Piker’s content encourages violence and supports terrorist organizations, while framing criticism of Israel as antisemitism. This rhetoric dehumanizes Palestinians by equating their resistance to Israel’s occupation with inherent threats, perpetuating consent for settler violence.

                  Saltman orchestrated a widespread disinformation campaign against Twitch, accusing the platform of fostering antisemitism by allowing pro-Palestine speech. He mobilized supporters to pressure advertisers, leading to temporary pauses in spending by companies like JPMorgan and AT&T in late 2024. This effort aimed to suppress voices critical of Israel’s actions in Gaza, where the confirmed death toll exceeds 40,000 — a conservative estimate, as Israel’s destruction of infrastructure and targeting of journalists has halted accurate counting, with the actual number slaughtered well into the hundreds of thousands. Saltman’s actions align with broader Zionist efforts to weaponize antisemitism accusations against dissent, shielding Israel from scrutiny over its apartheid policies and ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and Gaza.

                  His associations extend to content creators like Ethan and Hila Klein of the H3 Podcast and Destiny’s community, with whom he has collaborated on attacks against Piker, viewing him as a threat due to his effective advocacy for Palestinian liberation. Saltman’s push to repeal Section 230 appears motivated by a desire to further censor online criticism of Israel. Twitch banned him indefinitely in November 2024 for “extreme harassment,” including doxxing and targeting employees who refused to comply with his demands.

                  This pattern of behavior is not isolated but part of a consistent effort to normalize Israel’s settler-colonialism, obscure Palestinian suffering under occupation and genocide, and manufacture public consent for ongoing violence.

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              I’m not really going to speak to vanity or narcissism - I’m not sure I know where to begin validating that, or what my standard of evidence would have to be for that, especially for someone like Hasan who spends so much of his time in front of a live audience.

              The shock collar however does seem very well-documented, or at least as well-documented as it gets without Piker himself coming out and fully admitting to it.

              I don’t know why that one is so hard to accept for someone who is a fan of him. I don’t understand why we should only acknowledge the good people do, and not the wrong.

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                I think because unfortunately this extends beyond fandom and more into the realm of (a) zealotry, (b) fan-craze / simping / lusting, and/or ( c) Astroturfing bot networks intended to amplify support and suppress dissent. People like Piker are useful to certain groups to advance their own agenda. No different than the likes of Charlie Kirk or Tucker Carlosn or Asmongold, just for different people.

                If you’re in one of these groups, then ceding any ground whatsoever is a non-starter.

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                  Perhaps there’s an intersection between several of those elements. There certainly seems to be some level of ideological capture going on, and, I’d argue, some cult of personality elements to it as well.

                  I’ll admit, I’m not as versed in the political aspects of it all. I’m not entirely sure who supports which groups and what exactly each of their stated or unstated goals are, but it seems clear to me that there’s some level of intentional narrative being spun and manipulated, even if I don’t know by who or for what. It’s just too aggressively managed and curated to not be entirely intentional.

                  Maybe I’ll have to look more into it at some point.

                  Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson both so seem to have/had people they are/were beholden to, but I’m also certain they mostly do what they do to further their own wealth and influence.

                  Asmongold I’m only peripherally knowledgeable of, but he just seems like he’s bottoms-upped whatever isolationist and xenophobic koolaid he found.

                  I know he was a game streamer originally but it seems like he’s well into far-right political ideology now, is that right?

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          No worries. Happy to help. If you’re still interested I encourage you to do your own research and not take my word for it. Just be aware that he is both is both a republican boogeyman, and simultaneously, has a bit of a cult of personality built up around him on the other end of the spectrum, so nuanced takes are hard to come by.

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      A nepo baby cos playing as a progressive on TV to enrich himself. That’s his contribution to the world. And dumb people are attracted to him.

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        As someone who found out about him about a year ago… Yea he’s said dumb stuff, but who hasn’t?

        From the rest I’ve seen he’s constantly pushing leftist candidates and ideas and he seems to be in a space that’s dominated by right wing Nazi dipshits, so having him in there is a good thing.

        The whole nepo baby comment I don’t know and don’t give a shit if true, the entire right is funded and bankrolled by Russians and fascists so I’m not going to nit pick.

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          On the matter of nepotism, his uncle is Cenk Uygur who is the co-creator of The Young Turks (a progressive news show). Hasan acknowledges that he benefited from nepotism to launch his career as a political commentator since he got his start working for The Young Turks with his uncle. It’s not like he hides it or presents himself as “self-made” or any other bullshit like that, so I don’t really have a problem with it either.

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          So your solution is to support people that are rich? Do you know what a demagogue is? Well Stalin was one and I put money on it this guy is one also.

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          I’ve said dumb shit but Hasan is genuinely a egomaniacal pathological liar and frequently calls for violence both explicitly and in coded language. He is also ridiculously, like insanely slanderous to anyone who looks at him wrong. He fosters a community of people that other creators are terrified of so they walk on eggshells around him.

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            You’re an H3H3 fan, you don’t get to talk about fostering communities of people that other creators are terrified of so they walk on eggshells around him.

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            Ok now I know you are either a troll or shill. Everything you said is just wrong and lies and you won’t be able to back any of it up becuase there is hours of video of him proving the exact opposite.

            The only time I’ve seen him say vile things is when he’s making fun of Conservatives and ironically saying the vile shit they actually believe.

            IE this entire fucking post and the reason for the lawsuit!!

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            You must be watching the wrong Hasan Piker, maybe you are watching the right wing version of Hasan Piker? Pasan Hiker perhaps.

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        How does any of that justify Scott Jennings going on national television and slandering the man?

        Go ahead and get those talking points from Fox. I’ll wait. Let’s hear your psycho argument about why this man deserved to be slandered by Mitch MicConnell’s right-hand hatchet man.

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          Psycho argument? That projection… I’m just pointing out the valid reasons I don’t like him, and I never did. Yall support nepo baby’s that are abusers go ahead, I just have a better grasp on morality then hasan piker.

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            The topic is “Scott Jennings made up a story about Hasan, fabricated evidence, and then presented that false evidence and is now being sued for slander”

            It doesn’t matter how you feel about the victim. It doesn’t matter what other things the victim did. All of that is completely irrelevant. What is relevant is that Scott Jennings made up a story, fabricated evidence, and presented it on tv as fact. Scott should lose his job and this lawsuit, and he can never be allowed to work in journalism again.

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    I don’t think Piker can win the case, since it was played by Republicans long before Scott Jennings got a hold of it, so it was their editing and implication, not Jennings.

    The edit was disingenuous in my opinion, Hasan has said enough crappy things to make the point without manipulating footage to do so. I think the Republicans should be responsible in this case (if there were edits), and I loathe Hasan Piker so it’s not like I’m in his camp.

    However, it’s not worth tens of millions of dollars, that’s off the wall.

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    Jennings later accused Piker of “calling for Black voters to be lynched” and referred to what he called “the Piker plan of returning our country to lynchings.”

    The original footage came from an October 2024 Twitch broadcast in which Piker was reacting to a debate between two Black political commentators — one liberal and one conservative. After the conservative participant criticized “woke DAs,” Piker sarcastically suggested the commentator wanted to return to an era of racial discrimination and lynchings, according to the complaint.

    “He said, ‘We need more Klansmen, OK? Can we go back to a better time when lynchings were happening?’” Piker said during the stream in reaction to the commentator’s argument.

    Piker’s attorneys argue that the edited video removed the words “He said,” along with his laughter and surrounding commentary, to intentionally make it appear as though Piker was expressing his own beliefs rather than mocking someone else’s.

    The dispute emerged amid the Michigan Senate race, where the edited video was circulated to criticize progressive Democratic candidate Abdul El-Sayed over his association with Piker.

    Seems like Scott Jennings is going to get nailed to the wall for that, it’s pretty indefensible.

    Or, I should say, CNN will. Or, I should say, Skydance will. Or, I should say, David Ellison will. Or, I should say, Larry Ellison('s pocketbook) will.

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        What I have learned about this hasan kid I’ve liked.

        And I’m feeling strong that my read on him is that under no circumstance is he gonna settle for a sum that is less than actual, meaningful, blood.

        Or let Scott chicken out and pay him the full $72mil

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        Looks like Piker is getting a new gamer chair and a home gym made entirely out of gold. Ethically sourced, obviously.

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      That doesn’t actually sound a ton different than literally any attack ad airing for any candidate at the moment.

      If hope both parties lose this one, with a long trial for a one dollar verdict.

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        Neither person in this lawsuit is a political candidate. There are different rules for political ads than for what you can just say on TV about a public person.

        Piker makes all his income by being popular and from his public image. If what Scott Jennings lied about causes, or may cause, Piker to lose income (by losing stream views because people now think he’s a racist), he has a right to sue Jennings for causing that to happen.

        You have no idea what you’re talking about.

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    Hasan Piker is a great example of a person whose fame is a sign of the world being fucked up.

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      MAGA spotted. People like you benefit and support the Jeffrey Epstein Class, you are in no position to talk about what is fucked up.

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        Do MAGAs usually think that Trump should have been prison for treason/sedition/whatever after January 6 2021 and that he’s generally speaking not only the worst US president in history but also among the worst famous people in history?

        Because that’s how I think and I think it kinda conflicts with the idea of being MAGA.

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          “Fuck Hasan Piker. Probably fuck Scott Jennings, too”

          That was your reaction to this news.

          MAGA statement in full right there from you.

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          Oh so you are a Blue MAGA. You hate Hasan because of what he said about 9/11? You are cultist who gave his loyalty to the country, not the people. That is blue MAGA. American Exceptionalism. You are costing us, Mexicans, over 30,000+ innocent people every year while you keep wasting time searching for “the most perfect figure possible”.

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              Coward. As I expected. You just want to keep killing 30,000+ Mexicans every year. You probably have stocks in Lockheed Martin, Daniel Defense, Boeing, General Electric and shit. You profit off our deaths, hence why you hate Hasan. He’s fucking with the bag.

              This is what every single Hasan hater is. Someone who benefits warmongers who profit off innocent people’s deaths. The only reason I can think of of why you would do that, is because you are either a racist piece of shit, or make money with war. Which one is it? Being a sensitive leftie who doesn’t like the way he talks is not an option anymore. You are benefiting the worst people possible by being like that.

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      It’s so funny when people edit their comments as if no one saw the weird shit you said earlier lol

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      Tell me you’re conservative without telling me hahahaha

      Probably fuck Scott Jennings, too? Lol