• Kjell@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Remember that you are not alone on the roads. If cars without ABS are being sold some people who can’t drive would get one. Then, during the winter they would cause traffic accidents when they slam the brakes and the wheels lock up.

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      3 days ago

      Of course. I said it’s a great option. A very good technology, for those without skill. I’d be happy if you could pass a test and skip the cost.

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        ABS adjusts the brake force individually on each wheel. You cannot do that yourself with just one brake pedal. Thus, ABS will always have a shorter brake distance than manually stutter braking.

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          Yes. A good driver doesn’t test those limits. (Except under controlled circumstances.) We drive cautiously according to conditions. If ABS is triggered, you’ve done something wrong.

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            Unfortunately you are relying on everyone being a good driver to keep you safe. It’s surprising how many people don’t understand simple concepts such as the impact of speed or stopping distances…or choose to ignore the consequences.

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                I agree with you. And in the components car.

                I am just saying those who are ignorant to driving or safety will always be the weakest link. And of course we have to consider competency.

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                  Skill is such a dumb take on ABS. You cannot adapt to every single situation by “driving according to the conditions”. An animal could jump in front of you in the dark. Unless you are literally driving at walking pace there is no chance ABS wouldn’t help you in such a situation if it is icy. Just because you have been lucky through life doesn’t take away the fact that there are some situations where safety systems will be better. ABS and ESP are significant safety improvements that come with little associated cost.

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                    It’s not THAT little associated cost. New ESP module for any 00s German car costs as much as the car itself at this point lol, around 2k.

                    That said, manufacturers get them for less than that.