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slaacaa@lemmy.world to Fuck AI@lemmy.world · 6 个月前

I hope none of you wanted to buy RAM anytime soon

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I hope none of you wanted to buy RAM anytime soon

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slaacaa@lemmy.world to Fuck AI@lemmy.world · 6 个月前
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  • borZ0 the t1r3D b3aR@lemmy.world
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    Can someone that lies better than me start-up a fake AI Company that’s real purpose is to take all the memory and chips they have access to and sell them at a loss to normal people? Not only would the prices come down , but we’d be actively screwing over all these giant companies that invested.

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      For that matter, how much does it cost to start a RAM manufacturer?

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        What could it cost…$10?

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        Ballpark $100,000,000,000 and five years per factory.

        Modern semiconductors are very complicated to produce.

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          A hundred billion? I don’t actually know, but that seems too high. I’ve worked as an automation engineer in a bunch of factories and know that you can get a fairly complex fairly large factory for 9 figures. I know semiconductors are complicated but so are a lot of things. I’d guess it’s closer to a billion depending on scale/size/location.

          5 years to start up a factory is fast, but doable.

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            This came from looking up how much people are currently spending to build a ram fab. It’s worth remembering that the tools used are very complex and are also impacted by the massive spike in semiconductor prices.

            https://www.blackridgeresearch.com/project-profiles/tsmc-arizona-fab-united-states-us-details-cost-expansion-latest-update

            https://www.eteknix.com/micron-begins-construction-of-its-massive-ram-factory-in-new-york-to-help-prevent-shortages-by-2030/

            https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intel-delays-usd100-billion-ohio-site-to-next-decade-first-fab-now-coming-online-in-2030

            They’re quite literally making some of the most complicated and intricate things on the planet.
            The vast majority of the cost is tools, and when the price of those spikes due to shortage the cost goes up insanely fast.

            Cost estimates from even a just a few years ago have the cost being $10 to $20 billion.

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