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    These stones were mostly removed from the great pyramid just 700 years ago. After an earthquake people began removing them for a few centuries to build other things until they were all gone. The great pyramid had its casing stones for 85% of its life.

    Edit: I highly recommend “history for granite” on youtube.

    https://youtube.com/@historyforgranite

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      its amazing how we look at historical constructions and assume thats always how it looked.

      You are right, The Pyramids used to be shining white beacons of marble, but the stone was… “repurposed” for building after the end of the pharos.

      Medieval castles too, all anyone sees today are grey, bare rock, dingy, cold, drafty castles… But when they were new? before photographs and film? They were plastered white, and filled with rugs and tapestries that made them beautiful, stunning, and warm.

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        Never been in the “we” category here, it’s just so obvious that ruins of any kind and even just old-ish (like within 200 years) buildings rarely look like they were supposed to. It’s disturbing and sad that most people can’t seem to realise that by themselves.

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          When kids were shown the white marble buildings in ancient Rome on TV and history books and whatnot, and then end up thinking that’s how it was, instead of with colourful paint - if that is disturbing to you, you must have been a rather recent arrival on earth, no?

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        There’s quite a few Reconstruction Castles, newly built castles that have tried to be as historically accurate as possible

        So you don’t have to imagine, you can actually visit a (reconstruction of based on evidence of the time) living piece of ancient history

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    Imagine being the first person to realize that the Empire is dead and you can just fucking climb up there with your buddies and take that gold cap lol.

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    They should refurbish them.

    Why not? Just because they haven’t been yet? Historical significance? Blah, blah blah. I’m sure the people who made them would want it. And I bet it would increase tourism. We take this shit way too seriously.

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    From what I understand the polished limestone is accurate for many pyramids, but the gold pyramidion seems to be more of an edge case on some smaller pyramids.

    A gold top wouldn’t even be visible from the ground on a large polished white pyramid.

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      I remember the signs there and museum did tell that the great pyramids also had golden Pyramidions.

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      If it was capped in gold, dusk and dawn could have been very pretty.

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      A gold top wouldn’t even be visible from the ground on a large polished white pyramid.

      The point of pyramids was of religious nature, it was to be closer to the sky and allow dead pharaohs to go in their version of the after life so it’s likely that the gold wasn’t to be pretty but for a religious something

      Also, i wonder if it was a gold alloy and not pure gold

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        Note, this is from the ruined Black Pyramid, no the Great Pyramid. But what a remarkable artifact, still amazingly intact.

        This is in the right community. It is indeed interesting as fuck.

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          A bit ironic that they removed their comment that was remarkable and interesting. I guess it was about the capstone from Black Pyramid?

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            They posted an image of this capstone with the text “actual capstone in the Cairo museum.”

            It is a genuine capstone, or pyramidion, from a pyramid, one of very few that survives intact to the present day. It’s black basalt, still beautifully polished and inscribed. It’s just not from the Giza pyramids, it’s from the Black pyramid at Dahshur, tomb of Amenemhat III. This is 12th dynasty, centuries later than the 4th dynasty necropolis at Giza, but it does give us an idea of what the pyramidion of Khufu’s pyramid might have been like. Knowing Khufu, his was probably granite. He had a thing for granite, the entire King’s Chamber of his pyramid is lined with it.

            The article I linked doesn’t give any sense of scale, Amenemhat’s pyramidion is 1.85 meters tall and weighs 4.5 metric tons. No problem for the mega masons that built the rest of the actual manmade mountain it would rest upon, but still a far cry from a 100 foot tall chunk of gold.

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    I believe it’s generally accepted that they were usually capped with electrum, not gold. Electrum is a naturally occurring alloy of mostly gold and silver, with some copper or platinum and other metals.

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    I think one of the purposes of the pyramids was to be a sort of ancient beacon. The stone reflected the sun and moonlight, making it pretty tough to get lost. In the days of no GPS or electricity, I’m sure this was of great importance.

    Have you ever been playing Minecraft and wandered too far from base before building a bed and just had to abandon that base until you find it by accident later? Imagine that IRL and you can’t just build a new base real quick

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    I think castles in Europe are similar. They used to have plastered, white washed facades. Over time they wore down, giving way to the raw stone look most of us associate with castles.

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      No but shockingly close. The pyramids were built starting around 2630 BCE. But the African Humid Period ended about 5000-6000 years ago, so about 2974 BCE on the near end.

      About 350 years is shockingly close. That’s about the length of the Ptolmaic dynasty. That’s Isaac Newton being active to today. Not recent by any means, but that’s “we still know about this” time scales

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    Though given that the white columns and statues of ancient Greece were originally painted in bright colours, can we be sure that wasn’t also the case for the pyramids, at least while the civilisation that built them was maintaining them?

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      Menkaure’s pyramid may have been painted red.

      It’s the newest and smallest of the three pyramids of the Giza necropolis. Where Khufu and Khafre’s pyramids were cased top to bottom in polished white limestone, Menkaure’s pyramid is cased several courses up in red granite, then the top 2/3 of the pyramid’s height in limestone. I’ve seen a theory put forward that the upper limestone was painted red to stand out among the larger megaliths.

      Kind of reminds me of Pete Conrad, commander of Apollo 12. The Johnson Space Center in Houston has a grove of trees grown from seeds flown in space, each is planted for an astronaut who passed away. During the Christmas season they’re lit with white lights…except for the tree planted in Conrad’s honor, which is lit with red lights to honor his motto “If you can’t be good, be colorful.”

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      I’m pretty sure, with all the pyramids there are, there’d be some evidence or residue if this were the case. It’d also be an absolute shitload of paint. There would probably be archeological evidence for massive paint making in the region. They did paint stones, but I don’t think they painted the outside of the pyramids.