There’s unfortunately very little airline staff can do to stop this.
Bullshit. The flight attendants and especially captains’ word is law on a plane. They say stop and they don’t they can and should absolutely charge them with disobeying the instructions of airline staff (something we see all the time) and blacklist them.
I can guarantee that will happen more quickly if they are quoting from a different holy text (for American flights).
Source: United Airlines Flight 93.
And then they have their lives ruined by Fox News 24/7 coverage.
This is a big ol set up.
I think the reverse can be true if footage is filmed by other onlookers which then is uploaded to social media for influencers to break down what happened.
The dude in a Target making a scene about the Satanic pride wear (the artist drew some devils in unrelated work) was pretty much a flop.
Maybe, but right wing outrage is an impossible and stupid force.
When I view right-wing outrage, it’s so often blatantly wrong (and doesn’t pass a simple factcheck) that I used to just believe that they were incompetent. (And some of the arguments they make do show they can’t logic).
Then I realized that they doing what biblical scholar Dan McClellan calls costly virtue signalling. The social media post isn’t for outsiders, but insiders to signal to each other that they are of the body and belong to the same cult.
The affordability crisis is a Democrat hoax is the same signal as They’re eating the dogs which is the same as blood libel, and it doesn’t matter whether or not any of them are true. In fact, the subject of these statements are to point out targets for those MAGA members who are looking to express their loyalty with violence.
And why would one care? If I made it on Fox News for shutting down a cultist it’d be a mark of pride. The airline itself may suspend you with pay until it blows over in a week but firing or reprimanding someone for shutting down a nut job like that would blow up in the airlines face.
Let the dumb shits whine and cry.
I suppose that depends on how much you value your life and your loved ones. All it took was Alex Jones shouting a bunch and people who lost the lives of their children literally received death threats over it.
In any reasonable world it wouldn’t be a big deal, but there’s a lot of dangerous fruit cakes on the right wing these days.
I dunno, dropping a quick 400 feet without warning might get them to shut up.
They are probably scared that terrorists are on board who support the religious fanatics. You know how americas are.
Oh, how I would enjoy the discussion that would follow. And oh, how they would not.
“Having a religion is much like having a penis. It’s all well and good to have one, and one can even be proud of it. However, when you whip it out in public and bandy it about to my face, we will have problems.”
- Dame Maggie Smith
Off topic but I love how Dame hasn’t been watered down like Sir. Cuz like lots of people who aren’t knighted get called Sir.
Normalize calling women “madame”!
I’d expect they would react negatively like being called “Ma’am” (old). Adding the “d” might make you sound impudent.
It depends on how you say it. I haven’t gotten any bad reactions yet. One lady was surprised and delighted to be addressed with dignity for a change.
It depends more on who you say it to not how you say it.
Well yeah, that goes without saying.
Matthew 6:1 - do not practice righteousness just to be seen by people.
Matthew 6:5 - prayer is not meant to become a performance for attention.
Jesus 6:9 - Shut up, shut up, for the love of me just shut the hell up!
Peter 7.0 - And the Lord sayeth, Nice!
Austin 3:16 - “I just whipped your ass.”
Is Matthew relevant for the average American Christian Conservative? As far as I can remember, he’s the main one of the four Evangelists who highlights themes of compassion, care of the neighbour and sheltering of the stranger.
I’m not sure they can explicitly say that a part of the bible doesn’t count for them. They can tacitly ignore it, but directly quoting scripture is at least gonna annoy them.
Fuck that. I’d be the first one to shout “SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!” if someone started preaching on my flight. Stupid arrogant motherfuckers think they can do whatever they want.
Imagine if Islam preachers (or whatever is the equivalent role) were doing that.
I think they’re called imams.
I’m not certain that imams also have the role of “spreading” the religion like that.
Think of it as two roles:
- Recruiter / spreader;
- Leader / (re)enforcer;
Imagine if satanists did this.
I would be stoked if a Satanist¹ rose up to counter an evangelist like this and was prepared to do so.
¹ Is satanist proper? I know there are different kinds of satanists, from TST folk to LaVeyan Satanists and unlike Christians, have very little to do with each other.
As long as there’s orgies.
I think there is a website from the late 90s for plane orgies.
Would be sick with a little fog machine. Line your robe with red LED strips. Etc.
Tbf Islam has its share of bigots like this, but it’s still fun to imagine how the Christian ones would react.
brown man with turban and a book stands up
omg I don’t wanna die!
white man in a suit holding a book stands up
eyeroll
From the movie The Dictator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWeMWD-Yagg
I can’t see someone trying this on a plane full of Aussies and not catching hands.
We all know which country all these weirdos are from.
Well, a polite bunch of Aussies might shout phrases such as “shut up and sit down, ya dumb cunt” at the very least.
Seems to me the obvious solution is to unplug your headphones. Put the stuggles-with-consent-like-the-rest-of-them fame seeker (how pious) on the defensive and force the airline to make a decision.
seen the fuckin crazies do this on busses and trains too. it’s annoying as fuck
That’s why I prefer traveling by car. Public transport in theory is nice, but in practice it is ruined by obnoxious people.
i just make sure to always carry headphones with me xD
but yeah i used to have a car and i miss it. was nice, being able to get places more directly with less hassle. and just blaring music with the windows down lol
Think I’d get out and walk the rest of the way.
Another normal day in the Federal Republic of Dumbfuckistan…
This is already insufferable on mass transit when people do this shit but at least that’s a short ride most of the time.
It’s a real sign of how poor your message is when you have to trap people to get them to listen to it.
what the fuck. this is common?
In America, yes. My truck driver stepfather stopped using his CB because it was incessant preaching or childish fighting 99% of the time. Only turned it on for info on traffic jams he got stuck in, and at customers who used them to tell trucks when they’d been assigned a dock door (back before they finally started calling them instead).
Religion is used to manipulate people and also turn them into sheeple. As America has proven, it’s devastatingly effective.
Even without public transit, it’s still very common here in the states. There’s a handful of street preachers in my city that stand on step ladders at busy intersections with megaphones to preach to people stuck in traffic at rush hour
There’s a guy in my town (in the UK) who sometimes stands outside a supermarket near me with a loudspeaker, preaching his gospels, and honestly, I keep wanting to tell him to fuck off.
Why does he think he has the right to amplify himself, to preach hellfire and brimstone at people who are just trying to go about their days. If he just shouted, then fine, whatever, it’s a free world. But to use amplification is just cunty.
do it.
bad behaviour doesn’t stop if nobody takes action against it
We need to go back to tar-and-feathering people.
Perhaps street lynching isn’t the solution?
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Couldn’t agree more. The imposition and force is what really gets me about these guys. I was raised in the burgeoning evangelical.movement, at what was (on paper) a southern baptist church so these douches aren’t saying anything I haven’t heard before, but my former church members at least had the sense to keep it to themselves
Would be a shame, if someone accidentally flipped the stepladder.
I’ve dealt with it
The transit thing? Yeah I’d get a guy on the DC Metro pretty regularly who would sing a song then say a verse on the morning commute. He’d basically do it in each car of the train.
how many people react with rage?
here most people would look at each other with that “ah, a crazy person” look until they reach someone who tells them to shut the fuck up
on a trip in france i witnessed one of these types but the reaction of a local was immediate and almost violent. like a verbal explosion against the crazy preaching hag. it was a thing of beauty
Most people are too tired in the morning to give a shit or have headphones on. It made me angry for sure but you would be exposed to him at most 5-10 min. He wasn’t confrontational so no one reciprocated.
The first time it happened freaked me out a bit though because you don’t know if it’s like a suicide bomber or something.
Speak up, get stabbed.
No, no it is not. And anyone telling you it is either 1) is dramatizing the one or two experiences they have over their life 2) live around a person or specific church who are annoying or 3) just lying to you.
My anecdote is I used to see “street preachers” 2-3 times a year. Never talked to any of them. Now I see maybe one a year. But corona threw off the numbers.
From the cabin it looks like that might be a 737 MAX 8, in which case you’re gonna need those prayers.
Only weak minded people who believe in imaginary vindictive sky daddies need “prayers”.
What they need is a better education.
Well, two MAX 8’s crashed due to Boeing’s lies, and they had the temerity to continue lying about it afterwards. Then, the fuckin’ door fell off of a MAX 9 because some overworked tech forgot to install the bolts and every downstream quality check also missed it. Despite this, the evidence shows that they’re still about as statistically safe as “safe” air travel gets.
Southwest’s fleet is mostly MAX airframes now, which makes their routes cheaper. If I want to go anywhere and still have money when (or if) I arrive, it basically means I end up on one of these aircraft now and again. So, personally I’m fine with eating an obnoxious prayer from an overzealous Christ-fluencer just in case my next flight happens to coincide with Boeing’s golden-parachuted C-suites once again betting the farm on their latest venture.
I try to temper my Atheism with the knowledge that I’m always about one in-flight emergency away from taking a verbal leap of faith. That, and whatever keeps the cattle docile while stuffed into an aluminum tube at 40,000 feet is good enough for me. :P
I would sing baby shark loudly. I shut up when they shut up. And I can belt.
Incredible solution. I would be singing with you. Bet we wouldn’t make it past mommy shark.
Did it before when a couple was arguing next to me while I was belaying someone and couldn’t move. They fucked off pretty fast.
being that i am held captive in the tube, can i consider this a form of assault?
