• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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      16 hours ago

      This doesn’t work for artists who need to make a living. The art-buying audience is not on the platforms you are talking about.

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        16 hours ago

        Instagram also needs to “make a living”. They do that by making your life as an artist harder. You have to make a choice between using software that respects you and having a smaller following, or using a platform that, in every way that you can imagine, is abusing you.

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              14 hours ago

              “You chose one of two possible bullshit options, now stop complaining that the result is bullshit.”

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              11 hours ago

              Then they gotta, as the saying goes, lay in the bed they made, except they’re (helping) making it for others, too.

              They want the benefit of the privacy-respecting network, they want the exposure of the artist-hostile network, but they don’t want to contribute to bringing their audience to the privacy-respecting network. That choice is 100% on them, then.

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                I think we should put the blame where it belongs. Insta and all other plattforms have massive amounts of power and reach. They make more money from their users than the other way around. Its also not just artists livlyhoods on the line. With that level of power we need to inforce respinsibillity as well.

                Your plan does simply not work. Just like you are not comsuming solely ethical products so does everyone else. “personal responsibility” IS what these companies want you to believe the solution is when we KNOW it is not.

                There will not be enough people leaving to make a difference IF enough people would leave to theoretically make a differnce than the new place gets either sold to the bigger company OR sued OR banned since they are basically our politicians bosses. You can’t fight these things with “personal choices”

                We should always stand with the people with us in the mud and demand responsibillity from those who have actual power. Just assume that everybidy in your class is doing their best and will probably be more deserving of your support. They want you to blame the creators don’t help them.

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                11 hours ago

                Yeah artists don’t have it hard enough already, let’s victim blame them for trying to use tools that used to be less hostile.

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        11 hours ago

        artists can make a living from insta? (please assume I am very out-of-the-loop in regards to instagram and modern art stuff)

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          5 hours ago

          It’s not that the money comes directly through Instagram, it’s that the artist grows their audience through Instagram. The benefit is the size of the potential audience pool.

          A lot of time has to be spent marketing yourself, unfortunately. To find people who are willing to pay you for your art, you have to be present, you have to be visible. You could be the most talented artist in the world, but if nobody sees your work it won’t matter, you’ll die in obscurity, penniless.

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            like artist post cool stuff on insta and put a link to their etsy in their profile?

            I seriously cant image the average insta doomscroller to stay long enough on a thing to notice that. I cant image there is enough money their to make it worth the effort, for the artist

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              One thing I see a lot of is photographers using instagram to advertise booking sessions, things like that. Lots of people make custom jewelry, ordered off IG and paid with paypal or venmo or something.

              I don’t like it, but I do see a lot of creative folks using it to make money… while also passively supporting meta 🙄

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      16 hours ago

      They’d probably be distinctly socially liberal and full of Linux nerds. But who would want that?