I would also include anything that was initially a flop on its original release but then found a following later such as movies like Momento. This still counts as commercial failure for the sake of this question.
No one else gonna mention the 90s Mario Bros movie? It was one hell of a commercial flop, and set back video game movies a long time, but i love it.
Wildest dystopian cyberpunk movie ever made. In an underground dinosaur society once ruled by a benevolent fungal king and taken over by corrupt corporation developing trans-dino de-volution technology to control the masses, two sanitation engineers from Brooklyn become heros. To do so they must hack the mycelial network to find the lost king, survive an electric vehicle demolition derby style car chase, and save the princess.
Firefly
Weird Al’s film UHF.
In a just universe it’d have made a ton of money, spawned sequels, and set Al up as just as successful a screen performer as he is a musical performer. As is it flopped in theaters, but gained a well-justified cult following on home video afterward.
Amen. Didn’t it open against a blockbuster? That’s dim.
Mystery Men. Probably 20 years ahead of its time. I don’t think people had been inundated with superhero movies enough to appreciate the deconstruction. Aside from one or two short pointless scenes (what purpose did the skunk scene serve?) the film is incredibly tight, peak comedy.
Watched it a few weeks ago for the first time in years. The movies hits differently now that we have has so many comic book movies.
I saw it in the theater when it came out. Loved it.
The Rocky Horror Picture Show was a flop on release but still has special runs in theatres now some 50 years later.
I don’t know that Water World ever got a later following, but I love it and it’s still an original take on the post-apocalypse genre.
I never understood what issue people had with it. There so many way way worst action movies.
Hedwig and the angry inch??
Firefly. Watching Serenity, it’s pretty obvious they’re trying to hit several seasons’ worth of story beats in as little time as possible. Seeing it as intended would have been really cool.
Honorable mentions (in no particular order):
Fight Club
The Iron Giant
Grindhouse
Waterworld
The appearance of Fight Club on your list surprised me - I thought it did well. But I looked it up - it was #1 on opening weekend but ultimately only turned a profit of $10m, which is indeed a flop. Wild considering how well regarded it is now.
The Iron Giant
I was wondering if anyone would mention it! By far one of the most influential animated films of my youth, might have even been the reason I continued to enjoy animation past my childhood.
It flopped in theaters because despite test audiences loving it, Warner Brothers dropped the ball on marketing and nobody even knew it was in theaters. But from what I heard it gained a massive cult following, and I remember it being shown every holiday season for years as a kid.
After all these years, the final “Superman” still gets me…
I remember renting it as a kid and loving it, then asking around school and no one else had ever heard of it.
During those difficult moments, I still tell myself, “We are who we choose to be.”
Waterworld is freaking amazing. Love that movie.
I especially love the Death Proof half of Grindhouse, but that’s because I love 70s B-list chase movies.
Now I kinda wanna finish grind house finally.
Without spoilers, what’s its style?
Dredd. Karl Urban always gets me in the door, but the movie ended up being pretty great.
Thanks for the recommend, all. I’d avoided it but really enjoyed myself.
That movie was so good. And what made it great was that it was like reading just some random issue of the comic.
No origin
No world at stake plot
Just another day for Dredd
Like picking up issue 24 and just reading
That’s one of my favorite parts, too. The story is relatively “small.” It’s 2 judges, one building, and some bad guys. That’s why I love Dredd’s final interaction with his boss so much. I don’t remember it verbatim, but it’s something like:
Boss: what happened in there?
Dredd: drug bust
Boss: you look like you’ve been through it.
Dredd: Perps were…uncooperative
I wish MCU would do stories like this. I mean I would watch a Spiderman movie where Spidey stops low level crooks and the big problem is peter trying to make rent.
Not everything has to have the world at stake.
What happened?
It’s Tuesday.
Understandable, have a nice day.
That movie is so damn good. Every other film adapting a comic book has to make it either an origin story or some major event in canon. Dredd is literally “this is a slightly unusual but not that abnormal day for this guy” and it’s absolutely riveting. And that’s how the Dredd universe is: everything is intense and over-the-top.
This is actually the movie that prompted the question! I forced my fiancé to watch it with me last night (I’d seen it before) and he loved it!
There’s so much to love about that movie. I always wondered if it would’ve been more successful if the Stallone Judge Dredd movie hadn’t been so terrible.
Pantheon, the TV series.
One of the best shows ever, IMO, so good I can’t say much without spoiling the premise in a Outer Wilds kind of way.
Yet it was trampled by AMC and their failed streaming service. What a mess. I’m not sure it’s possible to even watch legally?
Incredibly good series. Just can’t really agree with its philosophy, or its ending.
Looks like it got moved to Netflix in the US.
Ah. Good. I thought it was only available from Amazon in a few regions, but it appears that isn’t the case anymore.
I guess it technical made money but Kung Pow! Enter the Fist.
I saw it in theater and remember everyone laughing through the whole thing. Absolutely absurd re-dubbing of a couple of old kung fu movies by the guy that later wrote and directed Ace Ventura and wrote the Jimmy Neutron movie. The reviews were utterly horrible (deservedly) but undeniably funny. I still quote it all the time.
For the unaware that where the “That’s a lot of nuts!” comes from.I quote it so often that it often doesn’t occur to me that I’m quoting it.
I implore you to reconsider!
We have purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.
I’m bleeding, making me the victor!
THAT’LL BE FOUR BUCKS BABY, YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT?
Taco Bell, Taco Bell, product placement with Taco Bell. Enchirito, nacho burrito!
Ba na na na na, Neo… Ba na na na na na na, Sporin
Tiger… Tiger, tiger, tiger… Mmm. Bird. Birdie. Birdie birdie!
My social group gets a lot of use out of “we trained him wrong as a joke,” “my name is Betty,” and “your shirt is red!”
I relate to Wimp Lo harder than I’ve ever related to a character depicted in any media.
Treasure Planet.
It’s probably a good thing that Disney’s forgotten about it. I don’t wanna see them try to remake it.
There’s a whole conspiracy about this movie. Something about Disney making it tank with bad marketing so they could push for digital animation.
Donnie Darko. It perfectly fits your second criterion. It was an abysmal flop in theaters, mostly because its ads got pulled because it featured ::: spoiler spoilers a jet engine crashing into a house just 6 weeks after 9/11. :::
It had a budget of $4.5 million and only made $500k in theaters. But it later exploded on DVD and made $10 million.
That Speed Racer movie that the Wachowski’s made. I think it’s a fun film and I feel fortunate to have found a handful of Lemmy users who also appreciate it.
That movie was too far ahead of its time for its own good. I remember hating it in theaters but gave it another chance recently on a friend’s recommendation.
Holy shit. The world was not ready for that level of cinematography. The scene transition from the villain’s office to the big race is pure art. People will be studying that one in film school for decades.
The Wachowski sisters are some of the most underrated filmmakers of all time. Everyone basically wrote them off as just, you know, the slow-mo kung fu people, and it’s absolutely tragic that they don’t get the respect their work deserves.
People will be studying that one in film school for decades.
If you have the time, this is a pretty great video studying the film
I knew one guy for years who swore up and down it was the best thing he’d seen in ages. Loved that movie. But he was also a troll with really questionable taste so I just ignored it.
But I see it get brought up like this fairly frequently so unless you’re all his puppets maybe ill watch it.
It is the only live actually movie I’ve ever seen that feels exactly like a cartoon. It got released in theaters for its anniversary recently and being able to watch it on the big screen as an adult was genuinely amazing.
An absolutely phenomenal movie. It would have sold better if so many people weren’t philistines.
Dirk Gently (the last TV show)
Better off Ted
Dead like me
Dead Like Me deserved better than it got.
