You’re living in a townhouse as part of an apartment complex. The apartment complex has benefits such as a pool and hot tub, indoor gym, full size basketball court, a library, and a garden. You have 2 other roommate/coworkers, and you have 6 neighbor/coworkers. A Labor neutrality agreement is guaranteed, and both tenant unions and labor unions will be voluntarily recognized.

  • unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
    10·
    2 天前

    Sounds lovely, until you and the employer stop being on the same page about the tiniest of things.

    Then it starts spiraling into a personal housing security crisis.

    And you can forget about thinking of changing jobs any time soon. The moment your 2 weeks end, you’re homeless.

    The tenant and labour union stuff sounds nice, but they’re not a magical fix. They can and often are bought and controled. While better than the alternative, they’re not a guarantee of protectedness.

    This doesn’t mean the model is dead on arrival. It’s just not one I’d choose. I’d rather have a seperate boss and landlord, thank you very much.

  • gastroglizzy@piefed.socialEnglish
    1901·
    4 天前

    No. Tying my housing security to my employment security only benefits the employer. A worker is allowed to leave whenever they want; a slave isn’t.

  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
    120·
    4 天前

    We tried this before, they were called company towns and they got banned because they’re a horrifically abusive practice.

    Imagine living around the same people you work with. Imagine a company that won’t even let you take a piss break having control over your housing situation. Imagine getting fired and having to move out of your apartment the same day.

    • ChunderBustickles@piefed.nzEnglish
      5·
      3 天前

      wouldn’t this have a different (slightly?) outcome if there were actual workers protection legislation? I’m pointing out how the whole ‘fire at will’ BS is flat-out inhumane…

      I could see this working in NZ where it’s challenging to sack people unless they’re outright fraudulent or hostile, for example

      • architect@thelemmy.club
        6·
        3 天前

        No because everything will slowly be chipped away from you. There’s not a single country on earth that will be immune to that. $15 an hour 5 years later, 10 years later… having to fight for that raise. Having to deal with moving goalposts to keep your housing. Yall have lost your fucking minds thinking you’re immune to this.

      • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        3 天前

        Sure, but why have it in the first place? Better if jobs just pay people enough to afford housing. That gives workers more options.

  • architect@thelemmy.club
    161·
    3 天前

    Indentured servitude? Company owned housing? What am I, dumb as fuck? Well, I might be dumb but not as fuck.

    But i am convinced the younger gens will be fooled by something like this and sign themselves away into slavery again.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
      1·
      2 天前

      since its apartment complex, probably a room , bathroom, small kitchen by yourself? if its sharing a whole apartment(unless you are student) then its really not feasible.

  • Furbag@pawb.socialEnglish
    32·
    3 天前

    The problem with accepting a deal like that is that $15/hr isn’t enough to leave you with any real savings at the end of the pay period, so you’re essentially trapped working for the people who provide you housing with no way to dig yourself out of that situation and move on to more normal employment.

    When they know they have that much power over you, expect working conditions to be brutal, the hours to be long, and the managers to be unfair and cruel.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
      4·
      2 天前

      Depends what your cost of living is, and how good you are at saving.

      If it’s located in Lilongwe, congratulations, the cost of decent food is going to be like $2 a day, so if your utilities and security are covered, you’re going to have a considerable disposable income to play with.

      Lots of people work for $15 an hour, in the West, and get nothing extra covered. That is a bit of a trap.

  • swelter_spark@reddthat.comEnglish
    9·
    3 天前

    If I was living on my own in those conditions, I would be fine with it. Although I’d be saving money in case I needed to change jobs/move. If the contract allowed me to pick up the lease after end of employment, that would be especially motivating. I wouldn’t want to live with co-workers, though.

  • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    3·
    2 天前

    In some countries, 15€/hr is very livable (around 2,4k€ a month working 40 hours per week), especially if you don’t need to pay rent.

  • hraegsvelmir@ani.social
    9·
    3 天前

    No, the only way I’m living in employer provided housing is if it’s either an extremely remote job, or I get some sort of exceptional benefits from it. I would consider going to Antarctica for a job, or some remote oilfield worksite to be examples of the first one. In either case, free housing is kind of the bar to entry for employers when they want you to go spend months at a time in an utterly remote location.

    On the other hand, if some super rich person wanted to hire me as live in staff so they have someone to fillet fish or break down a leg of lamb for them at any time of day, for the right salary and conditions, I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to it, provided I got my own little private apartment on premises somewhere.

    I have a few friends who got out of working as chefs in fine dining restaurants and were hired on as private chefs for rich families in the area. While they aren’t live in positions, they are the level of job I would need to be offered to consider tying my fortunes to my employer to that extent. The one I seeost often, for example, has a pretty decent deal. He is responsible for preparing 3 meals a day for the family he works for, and if they have any functions requiring food, he gets notified well in advance and will do some extra work to cover that. Other than that, his days are his own, to spend as he sees fit.

    From knowing him for years, it’s proven incredibly stable and pretty low stress for him. Whenever the family goes on vacation, he gets a vacation too (meaning they deal with their own food in another fashion while they are away), and he was also able to just take off several weeks a year to go bang around Portugal and visit his extended family there. If he had a slight sniffle, he would be given the rest of the week off, with pay, lest their child with some type of immune system issues fell ill.

    That said, I think my friend’s circumstances are pretty exceptional, and that would be the bare minimum for me to consider such an arrangement.

  • jaykrown@lemmy.world
    11·
    3 天前

    Nope, roommate is a big nope. Give me a 1 bedroom to myself and yes I’d accept that deal. $15/hr with a 1b1b covered completely is a fair deal.

  • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.netEnglish
    281·
    3 天前

    This is what we call a company town. Soon you won’t get real money, just monopoly money you can only use at the company store. No thanks.

    I know that’s not exactly what you’re scenario is saying but, feels too slippery of a slope for me personally.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          3·
          3 天前

          D’oh! I think I stopped reading and responded early. I hate it when people do that, my bad.

          There are cases where whatever business just has a residence in an otherwise private area. Or at least have been. OP didn’t specify either way about the surroundings, though.

          • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.netEnglish
            1·
            2 天前

            They did state some more info in a comment that I saw after I made my post. Regardless, I would be wary but, it wouldn’t be a no if there were good checks and balances

    • architect@thelemmy.club
      4·
      3 天前

      It is one step back into this. It’s something we fight and died over in the past as workers only for these people to bring it back up again as a perk.

      We learned this in school so I’m assuming the younger gens aren’t learning any history at all unless it’s a lie “Trump fought wwii single handedly!”

    • /home/pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      62·
      3 天前

      I was gonna say, this sounds like a company town. I’ve seen some videos on company towns and they’re fairly glamorous tbh, I forget the drawbacks, I’m sure it has its drawbacks.

      • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.netEnglish
        8·
        3 天前

        In old school mining company towns the drawback was that they didn’t pay you in real money. They paid you in essentially monopoly money. The currency they gave you was only usable at places owned by the company. The issue becomes, you don’t like your job and want to leave? You have no money. You can’t leave.

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      2·
      3 天前

      I have more details in other threads, but it’s distinct from a company town in that the job is paid by the government, the housing is provided independently of the job, and the housing is controlled by the people who live there

      • architect@thelemmy.club
        2·
        3 天前

        How do you save money to leave if you want to? That’s where the difference will be and at $15 an hour… you’re never leaving.

      • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        3 天前

        If that were the case then why would your roommates and neighbors be fellow employees? Also how would the government afford said housing if they’re also subsidizing the company you work for to allow them to be competitive for employees while only paying $15/hr?

      • GreatWhiteBuffalo41@slrpnk.netEnglish
        3·
        3 天前

        Your scenario sounds like it at least has checks and balances which is the only way this could work without employees getting screwed.

  • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
    53·
    4 天前

    You have 2 other roommate/coworkers, and you have 6 neighbor/coworkers.

    Immediate end of question for me.

    I need a good separation of work and private times/places. Coworkers are not automatically friends.

  • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    3 天前

    No way, absolutely not. Even if I subtract my mortgage payments from my salary, $15/hr still less than a third of my remaining income. Plus, I have a wife and kid. We aren’t all fitting in a townhouse with two roommates.

    Also, I don’t think I can go back to apartment living. I don’t like neighbors or people.