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    Ai is bad is such an intellectually lazy take. Anyone who understands Data Science and Calculus well enough to understand how LLM’s work are going to be able to get better results than everyone else. Everyone else, well, they are grasping at straws and inventing fictions…Seriously go study data science and experience statistics before you make claims that don’t hold up to scrutiny.

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    I don’t understand what’s he talking about. I was forced to use AI by my employer and instantly lost all the joy in programming.

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      Have it do the tedious work

      Have it create a better testing environment

      Have it do bunch of edge case things or automate ui testing.

      Use it as a tool. You can still be the brains.

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        I’m doing all that, but it’s not the same. I’m no longer writing code and it was my favorite part of the job. I guess I was lucky to have a job I enjoyed, now I join the 87% of people who hate their job.

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          That’s your managers fault then not ai itself if you can’t use it how you want to

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          What happens if you write the code and your LLM agents write the unit tests, maintain the CI scripts, keep the requirements and specifications and comments in sync with what the code actually does, reviews your code and points out potential problems?

          LLMs are actually the best “employees” I’ve ever had, they don’t get their feelings hurt, they usually do what they’re told after a few reinforcement instructions. They’re forgetful, but willingly write and refer to comprehensive notes.

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        The thing to realize is: you have always been the brains. It’s just a tool. If you try to let it be the brains, you’ll just get the miserable end of the deal and it will be doing an inadequate job as “the brains,” making your end of the relationship even more miserable.

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    Torvalds is doing an illicit substitution of Claude, Gemini, Copilot et al. for the vague term AI, which also includes local models, open-weight models and things that aren’t LLM (machine translations, for example), thus ignoring the ethical issues associated with the operation of commercial AI/LLM services.

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      Most tokens sold come from China today and open weight models, and most (EDIT) 42% of energy produced in China is from clean sources like nuclear or renewables. Don’t blame AI for ethics or lack thereof in neoliberal capitalism and a lack of planning or regulations. China also has the most and smartest regulations on AI so far.

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          The point is that fuckai aims to outright villanize people who use AI, although in a proper democratic society we would have massively invested in nuclear and renewables.

          The principles would be “If a material good or service can be produced ethically but is only not produced ethically due to profit maximizing which the individual has no power over, then the individual is not ethically responsible for using or boycotting it”.

          Or said simpler, the whole fuckai demagoguery is misdirecting anger that should go towards capitalism and especially neoliberal capitalism against people just trying to exist in the fucking system.

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        • Specific Sources (Recent 12-month baseline via Low Carbon Power): • Coal: ~54% of electricity consumption • Hydropower: ~14% • Solar: ~12% (split evenly between utility-scale and behind-the-meter) • Wind: ~11% • Natural Gas: ~3% • Nuclear: ~4% • Biofuels / Biomass: ~2%

        That would be China today.

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          Thanks for correcting. But overall the trend rapidly goes upwards year by year for china.

          The more general argument would be that you can’t blame an individual for systemic ills, which has been done to death for climate change and tried to turn it into personal responsibility. We do not live in true democracies but capitalist societies. And we can’t be expected to “opt out of the system”. If something could be implemented in a way that is ethical but isn’t because the ruling plutocrats make more profit that way, this is not the individuals fault. This demonization of people for using AI is unethical and a strategic blunder in a fight for liberation and ultimately only serves to shield specifically neoliberal capitalism from critique.

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      Hey, I’d only be killing people objectively bad for humanity. Trump and his allies, Putin, my ex-wife, Saudi Arabia’s crown Prince, Netanyahu, that guy who cut me off in traffic last month, Rupert Murdoch, the Ellison family…

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        y’know this actually made me think of a good plot for a short spinoff:

        Hardcore christian person finds the death note, spends some time researching who the most evil people are, then follows a year of writing one name every day after which they go through a ritual and prayers and then repeat the next day, and at the end they finish by writing their own name because they know humans can’t be trusted with that power and consider themselves to have simply been the hand of god and now it’s time to face His judgement.

        Basically just literally Silas (the white haired dude) in the Da Vinci Code.

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    And then yesterday he said something along the lines of “we need to make it harder to contribute to the Linux kernel.” Which I believe he means to say “oh god there’s so much being submitted all of a sudden and it’s all slop.”

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      "Well, well, well if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions. "

      • Linus Probably
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      Nah im still firmly anti AI regardless of what daddy says. Still based, but hypnotized by the tokens.

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      It’s a thing, good for some things, not so great for others.

      It’s a new thing, people are just starting to figure out what it’s really good for. It’s also improving rather dramatically over the past year, hard to say if that’s the start of an exponential curve, or if we’re hitting an s-curve rolloff already…

      If it continues to grow its energy / environmental impact at the current growth rate, that’s a bad thing, but it’s not “in a bad place” yet… if you’re outraged about the last 2 years of AI environmental impact, you should have already been apopleptic over the past 15 years of Bitcoin’s environmental impacts.

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    Ah, yes, “when used responsibly.” Like how we use drugs, alcohol, guns, cars, money, power, and everything else responsibly? Humans can’t be trusted with things that do more harm than good when used irresponsibly.

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      AI is the car of modern times. It’s convenient, ruinous for the environment, and a danger to anyone in proximity of one. Hell, we even wasted tons of land on highways kinda like what we’re doing with datacenters. But boy, does it get you from point A to point B quick.

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        boy, does it get you from point A to point B quick.

        Not so long ago, face to face interaction was the only way business was transacted, people were employed and paid.

        In today’s world, if we could get past the baseless RTO mandates and let the 60% or whatever it is of modern workers work from home or wherever is convenient for them to work, get the commuters off the roads, restructure the food distribution systems to eliminate that need for cars, we really could make a significant improvement in the environmental impact of cars and trucks.

        In the world of AI, I suspect a huge chunk of current AI usage, energy burned in data centers, etc. is “wasteful” - investigational, experimental, learning usage. If we can get past that kind of usage and eventually use it for what it’s good for and leave it alone for counterproductive wastes of time, it should also be a clear net-benefit for “getting stuff done” not only faster, but more correctly and valuably. Which software is more valuable: one coded by humans over the course of a year, with a half dozen undiscovered security vulnerabilities, or one coded by those same humans over the course of a month with those vulnerabilities exposed and fixed?

        If you’re concerned about the environment, those humans commuting to work for an extra 11 months add up to far more environmental impact than the AI they used to accelerate their work. Good luck getting their employer to give them 10 months off with pay for delivering the same valuable product faster and better.

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          Sorry, I don’t really feel like reading anything from Anthropic atm (I might later, it sounds interesting), but my actual, non-sarcastic position on the matter is fuck LLMs; they should not be doing any sort of policymaking.

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            Long story short: AI using AI can find ways to run itself on TV set top boxes and similar common IoT devices, as part of a bot-net. It can also find ways to self-propogate such bot-nets across many surprisingly low powered and widely distributed devices in our world.

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        Correct - knives do more good than harm, even when some people use them irresponsibly. My point is that AI doesn’t; even when some people could arguably say that they use it responsibly and do good work, those that use it for slop, to perpetuate disinformation, and to further degrade our ability to think critically outweigh those people.

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        “Guns cause a lot of shootings, so let’s ban guns”

        ~ any reasonable country on the planet

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          I’m sorry, who or what exactly regulates knives? Knife manufacture? Knife ownership? Even knife sales… If you’re referring to ballistic knives or switchblades, sure - those are like guns, but the 99.999% of knives in the world? The ones anybody with a piece of metal can hammer out and sharpen for themselves?

          • In plenty of countries carrying knives in public is not allowed. You can own one for use in your home or work but don’t brandish it out in the open.

            The reason few people know this is because it’s rarely ever needed, and the people violating that law are generally the people you want arrested anyway (e.g. because they’re trying to stab someone).

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              I see nothing special about knives in that respect, though I have no doubt there are laws.

              Making credible threats of killing or seriously injuring people, with whatever tools, would seem to be a good basis for arrest.

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        Nice try to equating a knife to fucking drugs. AI is even worse than drugs, is like the digital version of nuclear weaponry: it shouldn’t even exist.

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          Every country that has legalized or decriminalized drug use and promotes safe and responsible usage with support systems such as addictions counseling and drug purity testing has shown a decrease in drug use and addiction rates and overdose deaths. Whereas the ‘war on drugs’ has been going strong for like 100 years and usage in the US keeps rising, deaths keep growing, addiction rates are skyrocketing… And billions of dollars go to criminal enterprises. AI is so much worse than drugs and while open source models might seem like a friendly weed dealer on the corner they’re actually getting their product from the same monsters and gangsters that are selling crack to schoolchildren (those are the big AI companies).

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      There’s an example used in regulatory circles: electricity would never be permitted in homes under today’s regulatory standards - we only accept it and its hazards because it is so incredibly common and useful in daily life and we’ve been accepting it since before we cared so deeply about safety.

      So, have today’s goalposts moved so much that “AI” no longer passes modern society’s definitions of acceptable? I feel like such a technology would have been cheerfully embraced in the 1960s.

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    That’s how I felt when I found MDMA, and it allowed me to find joy in parties and being around people. If used responsibly, of course.

    I’m getting exactly the same feeling with AI now. It is instant dopamine fun, but I can see it being addicting in exactly the same way. Of course I tell myself I’ll use it responsibly, for work, and keep my skills sharp by making sure to do some of my own projects, and be responsible in properly reviewing and checking my code.

    Just as I told myself that I’ll keep a healthy pause of two months between mdma use, and have a rogorous vitamine and supplements plans based on the most recommended harm reduction research.

    Sure, I did manage to do that for the first half a year or so, you can guess how it is now.

    It’s pretty unsettling how exactly the same it feels, the way you slowly start giving up on things you’ve sworn to do, and how you slowly start to be unable to do/enjoy the thing (be it parties or coding) without it.

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            believe it or not i have the ability to still use my mind even when there are tools at my disposal! And I was at the local veggie market talking to people during that hour, so sadly again your narrative is wrong 😞 your response, however, pretty low effort… might need to throw a captcha at you

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            Perfect retort to name-calling? FM69’s comment is not exactly a rhetorical masterpiece.

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              I find this comment a kind of masterpiece, because there was both no actual name calling, and you refuse to type FartMaster’s actual name.

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          let’s see, i woke up and did jiu jitsu. I went to the local vegetable market with my dog, bought some breakfast and got some coffee and practiced my Spanish with the vendor. I spoke with a nice lady about art residencies and her desire to live an alternative lifestyle even though shes 75. I had a conversation about iterative prisoner’s dilemma game theory. Then I came home and now I’m replying to your low dimensional attempt at an insult, while spending some tokens to fix a form validation bug across a web app 💙

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    I’ve been thinkin:

    We went from STEM to STEAM. But I think we really need SHTEAM. (The H is for Humanities.)

    Philosophy, psychology, history, basically anything that would get nerds to think about the social consequences of the stuff they like to tinker with.

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        very unpopular opinion

        True! I think your opinion sucks lemming! 😎 /s

        But seriously, while I do think STEAM sounds a little dumb compared to STEM (and I’m young enough where I saw the name changing happening in real time and despite being at the age where it’s easy to impress on kids, I never really cared for the name), I absolutely agree with the idea that we need to teach STEM kids and professionals more about the non-tech side of hard sciences and subjects.

        SHTEAM sounds and looks stupid as shit, but we should absolutely take steps to properly educated up-and-coming STEM majors that they need to understand how their work and inventions affect humanity, along with actually having an appreciation for the work that they will do. Not teaching these things is how we create idiots that are proudly declaring “Mecha hitler” and “AI will kill us all, and that’s good!”

        People complain about electives and gen ed classes in college like, “why do I, a science major, have to take an ethics class?” and then go on to become Sam Altman. As a STEM major, I fucking hate those people. I understand you want to get your money’s worth in college, but having to learn history and take one ethics or culture class should always be mandatory. I have learned so much about people and become more knowledgeable about humans and empathy through arts and ethics classes, and have gained an appreciation for them. It also affects how you do tech in general too. So often do I hear about coders, security analysts, data scientists, etc who make music, art, literature etc, and feel like it affects and improves how they work.

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          but having to learn history and take one ethics or culture class should always be mandatory.

          Fuck it, one of each. Programmers had the opportunity to show they could handle not getting a humanities education with their diploma and they blew it.

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      I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again : eventually you just fucking end up with “be a complete person; here’s the entire dewey decimal system.”

      STEM is meant to deal with logic based thinking and the problems unique to that industry, like for instance, a huge gender gap. Shoving arts and humanities in doesn’t fix the issue. Cross disciple collaboration is great, expanding your horizons and putting ethics into practices is great, but that’s not what STEM is.

      There are already plans for these things in practice (hippocratic oath, iron[1] ring[2] ), which need to become more widespread. We don’t have to have STEAM toys and SHMEAT courses.


      1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calling_of_an_Engineer ↩︎

      2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring ↩︎

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        There’s many good reasons why even Bachelor of Science degrees have such a load of core courses across the academic spectrum.

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          Yes. That stuff is necessary. I am agreeing with that, while maintaining that “STEM specific initiatives” need to be STEM specific. I’m talking about conferences and toys, not courses.

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    So what happens when AI can recode on demand… Rather than programming a game, a gaming AI just generates the game as you play it.

    Rather than writing a program, it just codes and runs the code at the same time… so that what you need is there when you request it to be.

    Code chunks being put together and pulled apart as required. What then?

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      i mean they’ve already shown that you can just straight up have an image model generate the game in real-time without even writing code

      the future is the reverse matrix: all-but-sapient computers forced to dream our games
      I miss when computers were fancy rocks we tricked into doing maths…

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      There are things that we don’t know about yet that are too complicated to code by hand, and whey the models are good we will discover their limits then and start working on those

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      Rather than writing a program, it just codes and runs the code at the same time

      Yeah, so there’s been a lot of improvement very quickly over the last year in LLM agent’s coding abilities.

      If they continue to improve at an exponential improvement rate like they have been… maybe 5-10 years from now you might see such a “code and run” as you make the descriptions LLM performance, for simpler things.

      I’m curious, with “unlimited access” to the inference engine hardware capabilities, just how much faster the LLM agents can run when they’re not in timeshare over the internet mode?

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      How do? Does this apply even if it’s a locally run LLM? Even if it’s done using green energy like Mistral? Even if all of the AI written code is carefully reviewed by professionals?

      Is it a problem of making it too easy for people? If so, what is the correct amount of easiness for people? Shall we start taking clothing down to the river to scrub instead of using washing machines too?

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      You are claiming it’s irresponsible, why do you say so?

      AI is just a technology, how you use it makes it bad or not.

      Nuclear is the cleanest safest energy we have, but you can also make bombs with it.

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          I’ve read this article before. Found it very reductionist. For example, it says that weapons might be good for Ukraine, but they’re bad in general. You can’t just “in general” something like weapons or AI. They have thousands of different contexts and use cases. Sure, a weapon can make somebody homocidal in one context, but it might make somebody a militia in another context. AI can be a slop generator for a vibe coder, and a bug detection tool for Linus Torvalds.

          I’m not a fan of how modern politics and social justice is so reductionist nowadays. “One aspect of X is bad, so we must reject X altogether”. Can we add even a little nuance to our discussions? This mindset is brainrot.

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          In other words, you found an article whose headline seems to make your point for you - which you probably didn’t even read or you might have an actual answer. I did read it, and found the reasoning spurious, like jumping through a series of philosophical hoops to prove all taxes are illegal or that birds don’t exist. The author’s example of a Chinese dish with an unusually large amount of chopped peppers being more easily eaten with chopsticks than with a fork, could just as well have been a bowl of broth that’s much easier to eat with a spoon than with chopsticks. All it demonstrates is that any tool can have appropriate and inappropriate use cases. They’re still just tools.

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          intrinsically the more irresponsible

          That doesn’t claim it’s intrinsically irresponsible. You can use AI responsibly

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          A tool is thus any kind of thing that lets you do something you wouldn’t otherwise have been able to.

          Immediately goes on to using a fork as an example. Wtf are you doing eating with a fork that you couldn’t be doing with your bare fingers?

          Argument is stupid, and falls apart at the first hint of critical thinking.

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            Wtf are you doing eating with a fork that you couldn’t be doing with your bare fingers?

            Preach. There was a lot of fuss made when I was in school about “humans are the only animals who use tools” - of course by then all kinds of animals had been documented clearly using tools, but they were still teaching the kiddos (self included) that “humans are special.”

            I have been making and using software tools for 45 years, a tool is something you use to make a job easier, faster, cleaner, safer, a tool might make the impossible possible, but that’s far from a requirement for “tool-ness.”

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        The “no such thing as a bad tool” argument falls apart if you start thinking about it for longer than a few seconds. If you have a hammer made out of styrofoam, that’s a bad hammer.

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    i came to this forum thinking i’d find interesting stuff and it’s mostly just people getting angry at reality

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      Why is it bad if people get angry at things that are happening in the world? Would you rather we get angry at fiction?

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        it’s fine, i’m just commenting that it’s getting tiring and I don’t see people doing something constructive with that anger on a forum where my perception is there are a lot of intelligent people who have power from technical understanding that carries a lot of power. I have a need to see progress and structure through collective wisdom as I think that is lacking.

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      Oh no, you are one of those “if you don’t adapt you will be left behind” people, aren’t you?

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              alright, i’m disengaging from this echo box… everyone should go outside and sit in nature for a while

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                  i’d be curious if you eat chicken from the supermarket? Have you ever lived next to a chicken factory, breathed and listened to that one? Do you drink Coca Cola? Sorry to break it to you, but we’re all complicit in things that are destroying nature and humanity and just because you’ve desensitized yourself to the other ones don’t mean they’re not happening. You can rage all you want at each one, but it’s not going to be constructive. At some point we just have to come to terms with reality that we’re also responsible for this reality and I don’t agree with AI’s effects on nature either, but I think if we’re smart we can leverage its capabilities in the window of opportunity available with the people who are most capable (good developers) to create pathways leading toward better things. Or just go yell and rage some more, as you wish.

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      Yea I’m sure when Google came out “Real Programmers” were angry at all these people just looking up solutions to their coding issues, and using Stack Overflow instead of studying the API or books.

      Only to be replaced by people that embraced the new technology.

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        Only to be replaced by people that embraced the new technology.

        I think you have to make a distinction here:

        It makes a huge difference whether you know what you’re doing and can work more efficiently thanks to the new technology… or whether you have no idea and think the new technology is a magic wand that can solve everything (which you only think because you have no clue about the subject and therefore believe that whatever the new technology produces is good or desirable).

        To stick with your example: Someone who couldn’t code before didn’t suddenly learn how to do it on their own just because of StackOverflow; it just made things easier for people who already had some knowledge but were simply lacking the specific know-how.

        In this case, I’d cautiously assume that Torvald can judge what makes sense (within his area of expertise) and what doesn’t.

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          I think that is still true today with AI just to a lesser degree.

          After google many people could copy templates, change a few things and boom they “Built a Website”

          It’s pretty obvious when someone who has no clue, just used AI to slop out code or something. And it’s often riddled with bugs and issues.

          Where as someone with say 10+ Years experience in coding, can use AI to do their job a lot faster and better, and denying that is delusional and you will fall behind - !RemindMe 5 years

          Eg. I can just throw my error logs and repo at a local hosted AI, and it will find the bug significantly faster than I would have.

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            Presies.

            Having an AI help you code is like getting your six-year-old to help you put a shelf on the wall. Undirected, they’re just going to make a huge mess for you to clean up later. Given specific tasks within their abilities, they can actually make it both go faster and be an altogether more pleasant experience.

            With direction and an operator who knows its limits, AI can be used to semi-automate many boring tasks. One of the things I’ve got set up in some of my open source projects is an LLM that takes bug reports and turns them into regression tests. I don’t always end up committing the AI-generated test (sometimes it’s very slow and I can better pinpoint the behaviour and target a test at that), but it helps because I don’t have to do that scaffolding myself, and I can just immediately jump into a debugger.

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            Yeah, but therein lies the problem

            If you don’t have new junior devs learning how it all works through trials by fire, we’re going to be the last generation of senior devs.

            I like llms, they’re interesting and can be a real force multiplier. They let you skip the unimportant details and build bigger and faster. You design the system and focus on the architecture, and you get pretty great results

            But you can also leave it all up to the ai and create things that no one understands. They’re also not going away

            But I don’t know how we go forward from here. My best idea is that we make it illegal to provide llm access as a service - maybe everyone who uses one should have to set up their stack themselves. It’s not a perfect solution, but at least everyone who uses them will have to learn them like they would any other tool in their toolbox

            I don’t fear AI in the slightest, but I do fear the ways we’re using it as a species

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              My best idea is that we make it illegal to provide llm access as a service - maybe everyone who uses one should have to set up their stack themselves.

              Are we gonna set up a Great Firewall to block providers in other countries too? And VPNs, and all the other fun stuff.

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                No, just make it illegal. Actually doing it would be pretty straightforward. Fine them, make card processors drop them, make them unable to make money in our country

                If someone overseas wants to burn money providing free llm access, who cares? If someone sets up a VPN or let’s their friends use their stack, who cares?

                Those are just drops in the bucket. I’m not making a moral argument or something, I’m talking population level outcomes

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            Fall behind what
            Every single one of you is behind the best coders in the world. Guess you should just give up and take on crochet or pickleball
            You’re behind, why bother

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              I’m sure I’m also behind the best cyclists in the world, and having a basket on my bike might make it slower, but it’s way more enjoyable and functional for me that way.

              And it better serves my purpose, sure I’m not going to win any races, but I never wanted that in the first place.

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                Except that a basket isn’t analogous of AI, a smoky two-stroke engine that pollutes the air with unburned fuel and oil mix is. And your reliance on the engine will atrophy your legs lol

                You’re on the slow-roll group ride saying you need an engine to keep up and we’re looking at you with disgust because you’re so loud and we can’t breathe.

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                  My analogy is fine, you waisted it, but Lol Funny enough, I love 2 strokes.

                  I’d rather rip it on my KTM down a single track any day of the week rather than suffering slowly on a road bike.

                  Both are a workout, only one is really a full body workout, way more fun and comes with adrenaline.

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    I agree, but the question is, how to use responsibly. I like to use it as an assistant that can look things up. Googling has the tendency to bring up outdated information, a good AI model is able to cross-reference what it finds with documentation and release notes. I never let the AI write anything for me though.

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      This is exactly how I use it too. Google and other search engines have gone to complete shit in order to cater to LLMs. So that’s how I use the LLM. You are my search bitch, Gemini. No, you’re not allowed to actually create anything.