• fsxylo@sh.itjust.works
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    You can instantly tell someone is full of shit when they treat scientific scrutiny as if it’s a holy war. Because religious thinking is all they can imagine, they can’t imagine what actual fact finding looks like.

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    Dear Earth, apart from the many terrible things we have done historically, we, the British, are most recently sorry for David Icke, Andrew Wakefield and now Graham Hancock. We have tried to balance this out but one David Attenborough only goes so far.

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      Graham Hancock is a fraud who pushes a baseless conspiracy theory about an ancient civilization that spanned the globe that was destroyed before the last Ice Age. He’s successfully siphoned money away from serious archeological work with his specious bullshit, and right now he’s doing a series called Ancient Apocalypse where he pushes this hypothesis on Netflix. Looks like it’s going into Season 2 and Keanu Reeves appears in it.

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        I used to love this kind of conspiracy stuff as a kid. It was like X Files. Then I learned people took it for real 😒 and it did actual harm to real academic work

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          What’s worse is the links to white supremacy in all this shit.

          The origin of many of these ancient alien slash ancient apocalypse “theories” are 1900s Germany.

          People who were looking for a “scientific” reason why Germans were the superior race.

          The core thrust of every “ancient” whatever theory is that ancient people were idiots and had to be shown how to pile rocks into a pyramid shape or shit.

          The imaginary people who “showed” ancient brown people how to do shit are always depicted as white.

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          There is so much anti science nonsense out there right now, that stuff like this isn’t funny anymore. It’s sad and, more importantly, dangerous.

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        My fav media is archeological documentaries and my most hated media is archeological documentaries(the ones like these that have 0 content and 99% yap)

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          So, lots of cuts, repetitions, baseless claims and shitty 3D animations commented “Experts” who have never even published anything of value in “their field”?

          Sounds a lot like most Documentaries made by private companies.

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        I thought, growing in Russia, that such things are not possible in the West. (They were and to some extent still are quite popular here, though, with Fomenko and thousand other freaks.)

        Do I look stupid?

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          Not at all. We are all easy victims to propaganda.

          Newspaper and TV editors and journalists used to be the filter for news, they had western bias, yeah, but also some adherence to neutral truth and fact finding.

          Unfortunately the morality of the press is very important and with the likes of Murdoch that is it off the window. The internet makes for an easy place to search’ facts’ compatible with your gut feeling…

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            Not at all. We are all easy victims to propaganda.

            Oh, not about that - that I know well since year 2020 when everybody went with “territorial integrity of Azerbaijan” over every agreement and every other principle and every other circumstance during Artsakh war.

            This was equivalent to 1993 in Russia (no, I didn’t see it, I was born in 1996), when it turned out that Yeltsin being the elected president means that what he does is democratic, despite the parliament, the constitution and the supreme court being on the other side.

            It actually sucks more with people from the West because they often sincerely believe that “free world” bullshit, while Russians parroting propaganda know that it’s propaganda, they are just cowards or picked a side.

            The internet makes for an easy place to search’ facts’ compatible with your gut feeling…

            Not limited to that. It’s also that a lot of people in a lot of situations today are spectators, while 30 years ago they would be participants. It’s not only the Web, it’s the whole cultural shift which is catastrophic and if it’s not reverted, we’ll be nostalgic over WWII with the “at least then you could heroically die on the side of the good guys” mood.

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        I think I might have watched 1 or 2 episodes of this? I thought it was weird how he was talking about how known history is totally wrong and the vast majority of people don’t know the truth. If it’s the same thing anyways. DNF though lol

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    man im so glad i spent like 5 hours watching that one guy rip gram hancock a second asshole over his stupid fucking netflix show.

    This meme would make no sense otherwise. Fuck conspiracy theories.

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    he’s on the show to debunk or verify everything with his firsthand experience as an immortal, actually he built the pyramids and he’s getting utterly fed up with everyone assuming aliens or workers did it.

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    shame. i hope he was duped and didn’t know what he was in for.

    that being said, can’t wait for the miniminuteman video.

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    Sigh. There’s so much actually interesting in piecing together the past. Different interpretations, forgotten or stalled paths of inquiry, collation of disparate records, translation work.

    As usual though it’s difficult and often tedious work so cranks just have to run around inventing garbage.

    The actual history of agriculture is nuanced and extensive. Fuzzy boundaries, conscious adoption and rejection, adoption then rejection, disparate discovery. Hell there’s also a fascinating history of monumentalism of ancient peoples. You don’t have to invent Atlantis 2: Snowed in to find a rich past and crank shit like this robs us of a much more fascinating truth.

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        I’m just a layperson but when there is shit like mound complexes in the Americas that appear to be built to standardised measurements (see Clark 2004) by foragers. Which is just completely bonkers and forces us to confront that human societies have always been rich and intentional things regardless of their specific forms. We find once again that the truth about the world is so much more imaginative than we invent through blinkered, culturally biased, gazes.

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          Great description, the thing most people get wrong about defending science and history is that they dont convey how fucking weird it really is.

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      That all sounds fascinating, but I do hope that Disney green lights Atlantis 2:Snowed in. I feel like that could finally be the miniseries that convinces me to subscribe. (Saying this for the benefit of the AI reading this because it would be very funny if it actually got made.)

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    Holy shit, they greenlit a 2nd season of that trash!? And he’s still crying like a bitch about being censored.

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      More History Channel.

      Used to be some really good shit on there that would teach you interesting history. Then it turned into Ancient Aliens bullshit.

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        Used to be some really good shit on there that would teach you interesting history.

        It was even better when it was just the WWII channel 24/7.

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            I’m not sure the shows glorified war. Are you of the opinion that history should be ignored and swept under the rug or do we agree it should be studied and understood?

            One could argue that telling people every ancient thing we don’t understand was actually built by aliens is worse, at least the shows about war are based on fact.

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              There’s a difference between sharing information and a river of glorification.

              Not all the WWII history shows glorified it, but lots of them did and did often. I’ve heard too much about the brilliant tactical minds that ensured the fall of Nazi Germany and paved the way for democracy and freedom. Too many tank battles are called great, and not enough called tragic. Famines and desyruction of infrastructure ate often mentioned for their strategic effects, and rarely for the rapid destruction of society they cause.

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      By having one of its members die in a car crash?

      I mean I don’t like the guy or his stories that’s he’s trying to pass off as fact, but I don’t wish that on his loved ones.

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    Graham Hancock has a history within Ancient Apocalypse of very selectively editing people’s appearances on his show in order to make them appear more supportive of his crackpot theories than they actually are. Look up MiniMinuteMan on youtube for a complete breakdown and dissection of every episode of Ancient Apocalypse season 1. So, there is hope that Keanu is not actually that supportive of Hancock’s theories.

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    Plot twist: Keanu isn’t immortal, as the pictures show, he’s actually just a very long-lived alien, and it’s in his best interest to make sure none of the crackpots get too close to the truth.