worthless fucking article
democrats are the FUCKING PROBLEM
citizens have to fix this
Lets give the DNC football to Lucy. This is for the game, folks. It’s all up to Charlie Browns kick.
This is how I see the author of this article tbh
Don’t forget to vote BLUE no matter WHO! UNLESS the Blue PROMISES to make your Life BETTER then DONT VOTE AT ALL!
-Democrat Leadership!
Democrat Leadership? This sounds more like the lemmy mantra.
No. The last chance was 2024. They lost. That was the last fair election. There is no way that the fascists have come this far and gained total control only to give it up because of an election.
There’s one way to defeat them and everyone knows what it is
Bend over, drop trou, spread them cheeks, and shout, “you are defeated!”
What exactly have the Democrats done to inspire any confidence?
Aside from excellent trending in rights, the economy, safety, education, and jobs, compared to the only alternative, well, nothing at all.
Nothing at all, but the progressives, the Democratic socialists, and the greens and everyone else who is fighting tooth and nail in the trenches against the far right extremists and chuds are giving it their all
And the Democrats are not going to let them win. At best they’ll Co opt the progressives until they’re ineffective, and at worst, they’ll extinguish the progressives’ flames.
I’m appalled at how people still think voting for the Dems is an option.
Start a third party.
That’s wrong, you need to coopt the dems until they are a progressive party. Same as how MAGA turned the reps into an absolutely insane party.
With the MAGA movement, you had massive capital backing the propaganda. And if im not mistaken, the OG Republicans didn’t really fight against Trump.
With progressives within the Democrat party structure, you’re fighting on multiple fronts – against the party itself along with anyone interested in maintaining the status quo.
MAGA didn’t go against the grain, they slid with the direction of the Overton window, albeit faster than what some were comfortable with. Going progressive is, well, the opposite of that.
And despite all of this, you somehow belief that starting a third party is a viable option?
Yes, there’s a surprising amount of Rep voters who hates billionaires as much as the rest of us do, but Dems aren’t truly working for the people either.
There’s different ideologies among the parties, but both of them are anti peasants, pro elite.
Stuff like universal healthcare, free schools and proper psych wards are incredibly supported policies among voters of both parties. “European style” social welfare with a charismatic leader would get 60% of the votes in the US
Why do all of the posters making these “let’s start a third party” suggestion have accounts less than a month old?
(Admittably, I’ve only encountered 2 of you so far, but still, what are the odds?)
Maybe. A new, third party will at least not have the baggage from years of broken promises and empty lip service. Progressives have tried to work with the Dems since 2008 to no avail, so why still insist that this time will be any different?
Dems know the pickle Americans are in and have acted knowing that many will always give them their votes. Because what – will you vote R? No? Then shut up and accept whatever shit we give you.
Non voters are berated for not exercising their democratic right, but can you blame someone who’s lost hope of American politics? Obama’s campaign was such a breath of fresh air, the victory from which gave Dems power to enact some real change. All they did was to bail out banks and fuel the dumpster fire that was Trump’s election 2016. And during that election cycle, they forced a very unpopular candidate on their voters. When COVID saved them in 2020, they still gave Americans Joe Biden and continued down the same, rotten path.
Look at how they treated Zohran. I’m so glad he won because he shows that people want this kind of politics. If he was running for president, I think they would’ve tried their damnest to stop him.
So yeah, why should someone vote for them?
In my home country, the left party is sliding rightward, and this election I’m voting for a small party that actually stands for what I believe in. Some of my friends think I’m throwing my vote away, but my right to vote means my right to not be forced into making “mature” decisions about who I want to lead the country. That’s been done for some 40 years now and has never worked. Enough is enough!
You bring up Zohran Mamdani. You do realize he won by first running in the democratic primary, instead of running third party? That they did do their worst to stop him, and he still succeeded rather decisively? You do realize, that if Mamdani had run third party instead, New York would have a republican Mayor now?
something something vanguard
Preselect a few socialists? (Not much)
Who most of them aren’t socialist in that they don’t do the basics of supporting workers control of the means of production?
I’ll take a bunch of somewhat-socialist representatives over no hardcore-socialist reps.
They say they feel bad after seeing a dude get beaten to death on the way back from work. Their opponent would laugh instead, or would be conducting the beating.
I admire your optimism.
“a landslide defeat for President Donald Trump in November’s midterm elections is exactly what is required if the country is to start reversing his deliberate and rapid erosion of its democracy”
that… seems unlikely to me. I mean, he’s not popular, but his approval ratings aren’t significantly worse than the last time he was president.
- They are pretty bad. The scarier thing is how partisan the approval is. It’s been something like 80% approval among republicans and that may have only very recently slipped into the 70’s
- Yes, the last time it happened. 2018 happened (when he still had adults in the room to limit his crazier plans), the House was taken back, and he was impeached the first time over tariffs. Not convicted by Senate of course, but it at least sent a message
If we can slip both house and senate this time, the worst case will hopefully be to obstruct all his BS for 2 more years and leave him a lame duck. If we assume Novemeber goes smoothly (it won’t, but how bad it gets will depend on so many factors).
70s from within your own party, especially Republicans, is pretty freaking bad. He wasn’t impeached over tariffs in 2018.
He wasn’t impeached over tariffs in 2018.
well, my info was horribly wrong. I thought I might have confused one of the failed attempts at impeachment from the first term, but it wasn’t that either.
70s from within your own party, especially Republicans, is pretty freaking bad.
Bad for these hyerpartisans times, yes. But this wasn’t the norm, even as far back as 15 years ago.
But it’s part of why GOP congress is still spineless. A lot of their constituents still think Trump is doing a “good job”. Or at least that’s what they say out loud.
Polling show that Dems are unenthusiastic about voting in general lately.
I guess the question becomes who is angrier at their default party and will now refuse to vote with them: previously-republicans or previously-democrats? The largest registration anymore is “independent”, by a lot.
That means the propaganda is working.
It would help if they publicly said they will remove him and his criminals from the government. I don’t wanna hear anything about it being a time for healing and reaching across the isle.
Democrats will likely win but then they’ll remember who holds their purse and the billionaire Epstein-class will tighten their grip on us plebs even more.
Only if people don’t vote in primaries…
That’s the part I never understand, all these fucking accounts saying it’s not worth fighting before the general, complete fucking silent during the last primary, and won’t dona damn thing before the next one in two years
If shits half as bad as you all say it is:
Go fucking volunteer with your state party and make it better.
Sitting online telling anyone with a D by their name is the same is the shit Republicans and Russians pay people money to do; don’t do it for free.
I’ve been voting in primaries since the year 2000. When will it start to work?
When there’s enough people doing similar.
It’s almost as if you don’t count at all unless you vote. Amazing really.
If there are that many unhappy people then a difference actually could be made. Assuming they do anything.
Oh so it’s never gonna work. Gotcha.
Part of the problem is the DNC rigging past primaries against exactly the sort of change people want. But this time will the DNC pinky swear to run a clean and fair primary?
This isn’t nationals. There’s too many races here (every House seat and 33 Senate seats) for them to fight every progressive candidate. That’s why you occasionally see them give up and endorse a few progressives here and there.
Also, most of their work is done in the primaries. They tend to just accept the D candidate once that is done and over with. That’s what happened with Mamdmi. Mostly because that’s honestly more important than the real election, and also because they kind of have to to keep the ruse up.
It really is mind-melting to see how liberals respond to the Clintons relative to Trump.
What, voting for them and then ragging on them non-stop for stupid shit like ending welfare and supporting Iraq II: Nookyoular Boogaloo?
You know he ran against Bush the I and Bob Dole, right. And she ran against the demented rapist crook.
Seems pretty straightforward really. Unless you meant the Australian Liberals, then, probably, yeah.
Yeah yeah, primaries, Bernie, DNC, i got ya. But look - on voting day a competent liberal is better than an incompetent rapist sycophant, n’est-ce pas?
You know he ran against Bush the I and Bob Dole, right.
Then worked hand-in-glove with Phil Graham and Larry Pressler to dismantle the US regulatory state, sure.
And she ran against the demented rapist crook.
How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy
But look - on voting day a competent liberal is better than an incompetent rapist sycophant, n’est-ce pas?
First show me some of the former. A congo line of Andrew Cuomos and Gavin Newsoms and Gretchen Whitmires and Bob Menendezes and Michael Flynns have not been kind to the liberal party over the last generation.
How many Democrats spent a decade sucking up to Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg for a bucket of money, back in the Obama Era? How many worked hand-in-glove with Amazon and Boeing and Palantir, in the name of economic growth? How many sat on the board of Walmart and Goldman Sachs and Ford Motor Company, while pretending a liberal populism?
At some point, you have to take the blinders off.
Both Clintons were extremely competent and did good things.
Yeah Clinton was freaked out by Fox News’ takeover of the Chud-Americans and Congresses full of Klansmen and yes he got seekrit blowjobs and liiiiiiiieeeed about it which affected his plans but championships are a crapshoot, you get what you get.
Do we need to scrape up some “what good did clinton do” to make that case? I’m sure people who weren’t alive or whelped then may need some additional context in the lefty hole here.
I hate these accounts that pretend both parties are the same and strategically forget that when the republicans got power they stacked all the courts they could leading to this point.
If Clinton had won over Trump the world would be a better place just like if Harris had won over Trump too.
Democrats are complicit. They have no motivation for the bulk of the citizenry to win.
establishment Dems, sure. but there are insurgent leftists winning national primaries all over the country.
My only concern is the money musk is pushing for the right. Money equals votes and always has, the dnc refuses to help anyone not establishment. I hope the money won’t matter, but I think it will.
We’ve seen quite a few time that Musk has ended up spoiling votes. Because he did quite a good job tanking his own rep with the DOGE BS last yeast.
Money can’t trump voters when voters are paying attention.
Im hopeful but the show aint over til the lady sings in November and we have a fascist wannabe dictator in office who can convince people to be violent.
Many of these leftists are soc dems who just want nicer capitalism unfortunately
I mean I’ll take nicer capitalism over fascism
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yes, It cant possibly be the DNC centrists fault, who have been in charge forever. Its dem socialists who are to blame. Why did Omar and AOC do this to all of us?
/s
anarchist praxis is a lot easier under nice capitalism than it is under fascism
Fucking thank you. For the left, we are voting for our opposition. Either party will fight us but the democrats at least will kinda listen at least some and can be influenced. The fascist wouldn’t even give lip service and in fact will create laws to jail the left and crack down on it even more.
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“Democrats have one chance” …so we’re fucked.
This comm got so weird when the ml’s started camping next to the spawn points.
I’m reading this comment section and shaking my head.
I mean, Democrats deserve a lot of crap, and I have and will continue to give them crap, but we’re in primary season. I seriously don’t get the nihilism and defeatism about a primary. If you want any option in the general, now’s your time to vote for who you actually want the most.
How did NYC get Mamdani? Was it burning our vote or discouraging people from voting because the establishment Dems and billionaires wanted freaking Cuomo, and woe is us because the fix is in? No, it was taking a stand and believing that you can make it happen.
We’ll have different debates in the general since I’m sure progressives won’t win every primary. But right now is the time to send Santa your wish list and stop dooming.
We still seem to have a lot of “both sides are the same” mentality here, as if there aren’t shades of evil out there.
People who still think that after the past 19 months are either complicit with the destruction, severely uninformed (or lacking real perspective), or are letting perfect be the enemy of good. We can critisize (and we should) the DNC while also realizinig their vote is the quicket way to stop the further slide into fascism. If we can find a progressive or DSA or whatnot, even better. But not all races will have those.
What? There’s one ml comment in the entire thread, three majority are from .world
Oh look it’s this headline again. Just like every election in my entire life.
Yeah totally, everything going on right now is the same as it’s always been, very astute observation.
Well yes, but also the current corruption level is way more public and way more massive than I can remember in my many years on this space rock.
Every election has been the most important one ever, with Democrats winning the only way to save literally the entire world.
Maybe they shouldn’t have been so melodramatic in the past. Or maybe the world should hurry up and end.
I fucking hate politics.
Your mistake was assuming the world ending meant everyone would die.
What it really meant was the ending of your ability to control your own destiny, and we are in fact in the latter stages of the closing of that noose, no matter how much the “we’ll just grow a community garden in our commune” people like to delude themselves that the system will let them go.
Well at least it’s finally happening so I won’t have to care about politics anymore.
What is a Democrat?
A miserable pile of secrets?
I don’t really care what you call us, we need to fight fascism in the immediate future. Ideally we can reform the establishment dems along the way, but that’s going to be a longer term goal.
