• tidderuuf@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    Democrats will likely win but then they’ll remember who holds their purse and the billionaire Epstein-class will tighten their grip on us plebs even more.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      22 hours ago

      Only if people don’t vote in primaries…

      That’s the part I never understand, all these fucking accounts saying it’s not worth fighting before the general, complete fucking silent during the last primary, and won’t dona damn thing before the next one in two years

      If shits half as bad as you all say it is:

      Go fucking volunteer with your state party and make it better.

      Sitting online telling anyone with a D by their name is the same is the shit Republicans and Russians pay people money to do; don’t do it for free.

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          It’s starting to work now. DSA is winning primaries all over the place.

          It took the French hundreds of years and multiple revolutions to overcome their nobility. 25 years is not that long in the wide view of things. Especially when you want to achieve change peacefully, which we should.

        • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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          16 hours ago

          When there’s enough people doing similar.

          It’s almost as if you don’t count at all unless you vote. Amazing really.

          If there are that many unhappy people then a difference actually could be made. Assuming they do anything.

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        18 hours ago

        Part of the problem is the DNC rigging past primaries against exactly the sort of change people want. But this time will the DNC pinky swear to run a clean and fair primary?

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          This isn’t nationals. There’s too many races here (every House seat and 33 Senate seats) for them to fight every progressive candidate. That’s why you occasionally see them give up and endorse a few progressives here and there.

          Also, most of their work is done in the primaries. They tend to just accept the D candidate once that is done and over with. That’s what happened with Mamdmi. Mostly because that’s honestly more important than the real election, and also because they kind of have to to keep the ruse up.

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        20 hours ago

        What, voting for them and then ragging on them non-stop for stupid shit like ending welfare and supporting Iraq II: Nookyoular Boogaloo?

        You know he ran against Bush the I and Bob Dole, right. And she ran against the demented rapist crook.

        Seems pretty straightforward really. Unless you meant the Australian Liberals, then, probably, yeah.

        Yeah yeah, primaries, Bernie, DNC, i got ya. But look - on voting day a competent liberal is better than an incompetent rapist sycophant, n’est-ce pas?

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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          20 hours ago

          You know he ran against Bush the I and Bob Dole, right.

          Then worked hand-in-glove with Phil Graham and Larry Pressler to dismantle the US regulatory state, sure.

          And she ran against the demented rapist crook.

          How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy

          But look - on voting day a competent liberal is better than an incompetent rapist sycophant, n’est-ce pas?

          First show me some of the former. A congo line of Andrew Cuomos and Gavin Newsoms and Gretchen Whitmires and Bob Menendezes and Michael Flynns have not been kind to the liberal party over the last generation.

          How many Democrats spent a decade sucking up to Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg for a bucket of money, back in the Obama Era? How many worked hand-in-glove with Amazon and Boeing and Palantir, in the name of economic growth? How many sat on the board of Walmart and Goldman Sachs and Ford Motor Company, while pretending a liberal populism?

          At some point, you have to take the blinders off.

          • Optional@lemmy.world
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            20 hours ago

            Both Clintons were extremely competent and did good things.

            Yeah Clinton was freaked out by Fox News’ takeover of the Chud-Americans and Congresses full of Klansmen and yes he got seekrit blowjobs and liiiiiiiieeeed about it which affected his plans but championships are a crapshoot, you get what you get.

            Do we need to scrape up some “what good did clinton do” to make that case? I’m sure people who weren’t alive or whelped then may need some additional context in the lefty hole here.

            • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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              19 hours ago

              I hate these accounts that pretend both parties are the same and strategically forget that when the republicans got power they stacked all the courts they could leading to this point.

              If Clinton had won over Trump the world would be a better place just like if Harris had won over Trump too.