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    And for the colonial child trafficking genocidal apartheid state of Israel. For the third time

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        Not having kids, my bloodline ideally ends with me. At my age my mother already had me and was pregnant with a second child she couldn’t care for, I’m 26 and soon to be 27. I’m hoping I die an irrelevant, ignoble, and funny death.

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      The older I get and the more I understand that boomers had literally it the easiest out of any one in history the more salty I get over them calling millennials & gen Z lazy all those years.

      All you stupid oldies had to do was put like 2% of your paycheck into any index over your career and you would be rich AF right now. Which, is exactly why so many boomers are fucking loaded right now and old a historically disproportionate amount of wealth for the generation.

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    And honestly, at this point if you go to a local Democratic party meeting, see a bunch of protesters on the side of the road, or meet with the local liberal or progressive organization’s members – the majority of the most active members will be boomers in a huge portion of the country. Outside of the cities and/or the odd left-leaning rural area, young people don’t seem to get involved.

    So, to blame the problems on just that generation but also all of that generation is just wrong.

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      Yea, there was that Power to the People concert in my county this weekend. All the acts and seemingly most of the concert-goes were 40+. Same as the No Kings protest crowds.

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        40+ are Millennials. Millennials are defined as 30 to 45. Gen x are 46 to 60 and Boomers are 61+.

        Millennials grew up with Bush II and saw their country change after 9/11. Younger groups don’t understand what not living in a surveillance state is even like. It’s their normal.

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      Sidenote about local democrats— they’re disgusting. A loop up only propping up their favorite candidates, using their influence to push around elections despite being a limited amount of people many with bad takes, and intentionally they have their candidates run with hidden views so that they win on popularity alone.

      Like, still do it though because there’s really only upsides to influencing them, but just ugh.

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    I honestly don’t care about anything anymore. I just wear the same 6 or 7 pairs of sweatpants everyday and at the end of the week I wash them and start over. This is how I mark the passage of time.

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    Seems to me you can handle it one of two ways.

    One, you can punish the boomers. When Z gets in power, abolish pensions, Social Security, and Medicare. Let the old die from poverty and disease. And then you yourself won’t have any safety net when you’re that age.

    Two, you can focus on the class struggle. Focus on weakening the billionaires who control us and who made up this bullshit in the first place. Target income inequality, access to services, and draconian employment practices. Begin the century-long transformation of capitalism. This is the harder road.

    So which one will do more good?

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      The one that will do the most good is holding guilty parties accountable, instead of presenting a non sequitir strawman.

      People rightly hate boomers as a group because they are largely entitled spoiled brats who call everyone else entitled spoiled brats.

      They are largely the living embodiment of moral hazard who deem themselves inherently correct and reasonable while being obviously short sighted hypocrites, who have indeed caused their children massive sanity/psychic damage to the point that its now a widespread practice for kids to cut off all contact with their boomer parents. They are the ‘fuck you, I got mine’ generation. They are the weak men who create hard times, while thinking themselves to be the strong men who create good times.

      WASP Boomers are also the group that is actually most responsible for driving up housing prices and destroying the economy and society in that way. They consistently voted for NIMBY construction and tax policies. Most second+ homes are owned by Boomer ‘Mom and Pop’ landlords, not actually private equity firms. Yes the Boomers did create the political environment that gave rise to PE RE firms by voting to effrctively disenfranchise non WASP non Boomers, as well as destroy traditional pensions and replace them with 401ks, but they also are the most likely group to personally own a few other homes or have house flipped a number of times.

      Yes, we should have actual policy responses that specifically target these and other specific anti social economic practices and tax them into non viability, but we can’t, at least not at a national level, because of the dysfunctional government voted for, for decades, by Boomers.

      The current crop of billionaires are the inevitable result of the Boomer mindset codified into formal societal rules. Yes we should specifically tax billionaires out of existence, but we also need to dismantle the systems that allow for billionaires to arise in the first place.

      Presenting a dichotomy of ‘kill all boomers and abolish social safety nets’ vs ‘tax billionaires and do class struggle’ is a laughable misdirect.

      What would actually do more good is a combination of in depth and honest economic and tax policy reform, wealth taxes and such, accompanied by acknowledging the fact that many Boomers have been abusive hypocritical sociopathic narcissists in every dimension of their lives and have caused considerable direct harm to people personally.

      The zeitgeist of Boomer hate is never going to end until Boomers collectively take accountability for the harm they’ve caused, economic and psychological.

      The Boomers do not get to spend their whole lives playing at being rugged individualists while actually consistently rigging the system for their own preferential treatment, and then when that largely fails them because they got out sharked by better sharks, then get to play the “we’re all in this together guys” card.

      No. We’d be idiots to trust Boomers not to continue to act selfishly while disguising their self serving greed behind a different rhetorical justification. All the Boomers have ever collectively shown themselves to be is arrogant selfish lying assholes who will betray you when its benefits them personally, and then belittle you for not seeing that coming.

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      As a millennial I find it a little funny whenever someone says that type of stuff about Gen Z, because they used to say that about us. I hate to tell you but the people that get into power are almost always the shit heads. It’s not a generational thing. It’s a wealth and privilege thing. The future Gen Z leaders will be the same entitled out-of-touch shitheads that they always are.

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      Boomers own 52% of the country, they ARE the class struggle. Over 55s together over 70%. I don’t think anyone in gen Z is operating under the assumption they could ever retire anyway? They’re not pumping out enough babies to fund their retirement. Neither are us millennials.

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        This is a logical error.

        Over 55s own about 73%

        What this number establishes is that a significant portion of the owning class is over 55. What it doesn’t show is that the boomers are the ownership class. If one guy over 55 owns 75% of the country, you still end up with

        Over 55s own about 73%

        being true. You’re focussing on the wrong group of people.

        Here’s a fact:

        Households with a white householder hold roughly 80% of the nation’s total wealth

        Does this mean we should be mad at white people?

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      One, you can punish the boomers. When Z gets in power, abolish pensions, Social Security, and Medicare. Let the old die from poverty and disease. And then you yourself won’t have any safety net when you’re that age.

      Gen Z doesn’t need to be in power for this. The actual boomers are doing this on their way out.

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      • Send Trump and cronies to the Hague for war crimes.
      • Expell Israeli ambassador and diplomatic personnel.
      • Disband AIPAC; try citizens on their board for treason.
      • Keep all the social safety nets, and fund it by eviscerating billionaires with wealth taxes.
      • Break up and nationalize big-tech like Theodore Roosevelt, a (gasp) Republican.
      • Introduce age ceilings and term limits for every elected office in the United States.
      • Mandate rank-choiced voting, undo all gerry-mandering.
      • Release Epstein files.

      Watch boomers mald and rejoice in schädenfreude.

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    I know about a half dozen younger people who voted for Trump, believing him to actually be the Senator Armstrong-type person the meme war made him out to be.

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      No, you’re right. He landslided the 20-30 age range that year because he went on their shows and focused on them

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            To be fair, whoever plotted the X axis of the chart did their very best to make it as unintuitive as possible.

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            It looks like the only age group that didn’t increase support for Trump in 2024 compared to 2016 was 65+.

            Am I reading that right?

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              You are correct. Which would make the only group who didn’t sell us out the literal actual boomers. Well, not more than usual anyway

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                In my experience Boomers are basically all cemented in their position, for example the single most feral leftie I’ve ever met was an old ass biker boomer who apparently hung out with the black Panthers as a teen and basically wanted to murder ever president since Johnson. Meanwhile I’ve never met a rightwing boomer who could have their mind changed regardless of whatever logic chain you use, I’ve had more conductive arguments with neo-nazis since at least they try to argue rather than effectively just going nuh-uh.

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          Actually we were just talking about this further down. Somebody called me on my shit and it turns out +65 or older voted exactly the same as in 2020. From other age groups many switched sides to Maga except 18-30 who voted Maga instead of staying home like usual

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    This is your reminder that division along age or generation lines is as much of a distraction as division along race lines is. The real division is between who works for a living and who owns for a living. Simple as that. Sadly, the owning also includes owning the media and politicians (why yes, also most democrats), so there’s not much you can do either way. Get used to not owning a home.

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      Boomers own 52% of the country. Over 55s own about 73%. They ARE the ownership class. Billionaires are a minority of that class both by numbers and by assets. And most of the billionaires themselves are old fucks.

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        Over 55s own about 73%

        Ok, so what this number establishes is that a significant portion of the owning class is over 55. What it doesn’t show is that the boomers are the ownership class. If one guy over 55 owns 75% of the country, you still end up with

        Over 55s own about 73%

        being true. You’re focussing on the wrong group of people.

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        It doesn’t matter how many billionaires there are, they are the ones who rule because they are billionaires. Your figures mean fuckall in the grand scheme of the wealth and power of billionaires.