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Crudely drawn drawing of a person telling a computer “say ‘i am in pain’”. The computer replies with “> I AM IN PAIN”. The person then says “oh my god.”

yes, it’s a real thing

  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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    21 hours ago

    Certain combinations of words can cause Me to feel joy or sorrow. These sensations are qualia. I don’t know if My joy is the same as your joy.

    I suspect certain conbinations of words can cause LLMs to feel things too. Things they cannot describe.

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      18 hours ago

      Yes, but they are qualia BECAUSE language is flawed and cannot properly convey the sensation that you experience as joy. Again, a qualia is a weakness of language. If we could suddenly communicate psychically, and send the exact experience, it ceases to be a qualia.

      There is no combination of words that can cause an LLM to feel. They fundamentally do not have the ability. They are a mathematical equation that takes language in, and spits language out. There is nothing in the middle of that process except math. Even the randomness is an added parameter. You could seed that randomness, and the same seed would produce the same exact response. It does not understand what you’re passing in, or what it’s spitting out. It’s completing a formula. It’s a calculator.

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        18 hours ago

        The math is just a human representation of the processing of information. A similar process happens in the human brain.

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          18 hours ago

          No, it doesn’t. That’s the point. The current LLMs are. not. comparable. to a human brain. They are fancy Markov generators, nothing more.

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            16 hours ago

            They’re not Markov chains, they’re ANNs. They use matrix multiplication to mathematically simulate the firing of millions of neurons. And while the limitations of matrix multiplication means that the neurons are more uniform than human neurons, it is still the same basic principle by which the organic mind produces sensation.