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Godric@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 18 hours ago

"What is the cost of lies?"

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Godric@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 18 hours ago
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  • legacy_warrior_104@lemmy.world
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    WHO is still asking Russia for more details, including what actually caused the lab worker’s death and reports of a second pneumonia case.

    https://twitee.co/DrTedros/status/2107591815863968121

    So I guess we’re still at the “not enough information” stage.

  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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    the people in wuhan said the same thing just before things expanded out of control

    • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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      I still remember reading reddit threads about what looked like mass incineration of human remains and the speculations thereabout.

  • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Funnily enough, this isn’t even the worst leak of a disease from a lab in Russia. That honor (probably) going to the Sverdlovsk anthrax leak in 1979 which killed at least 68 people.

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    7 hours ago

    sigh

    I’ll get the 400 tons of sand and boron.

  • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    “You’re quite a piece of work, Mr Cockroach. We could learn a lesson from you, especially in light of recent events. I have an idea come this time tomorrow I’ll be gone, but you’ll still be trucking, running little roach errands”.

  • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz
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    6 hours ago

    who are these people?

    • Rolivers@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 hours ago

      From the HBO show Chernobyl. It’s really well made and worth watching.

      • zoltanshields@lemmy.zip
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        I’ve never seen a more accurate depiction of my typical experience in a professional environment. “Nobody wants to speak up or handle things correctly because someone senior with direct responsibility for your employment shouted down any dissent because they want to meet a metric” is apparently a timeless experience.

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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        The show was very well done, but it implies this was history. That mass of reactor is still burning underground, and Russian bombs have damaged the sarcophagus covering it. The remaining reactors are still in use.

        • Laukidh@infosec.pub
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          Chernobyl shut down its last active reactor a decade ago.

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            Whoops… they also had more fires after the meltdown, in other reactors.

  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    For those who need to know more:

    Local media have reported that the institute has subsequently been locked down, with staff forced to sleep on the floor and on chairs. “They’ve been isolating everybody since Friday – more than 60 people,” one relative, Roman, told the news portal Siberia.Realities.

    He said family members were allowed to drop off food at a checkpoint while tests were carried out inside the building. Similar quarantine restrictions have been placed on several other hospitals in and around the city.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/05/russia-lab-worker-possibly-dies-of-plague-siberia-quarantine-measures-irkutsk

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      At least this time around they seem to be treating it seriously instead of trying to cover it up to save face I guess?

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        They do both “nothing to see here” while trying their worst best to contain it.

        My money is on them shipping infected people to the front lines while saying they are just in quarantine.

        A few weeks later “oh noes they all ded frum virus” meanwhile they just spread it to all their own troops while claiming it’s just a flu and everyone is fine.

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    18 hours ago

    I think I’ve seen this before.

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    18 hours ago

    3.6 Roentgen PPM, not great, not terrible

  • thiscat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 hours ago

    I dont like the sound of it

  • blargh513@sh.itjust.works
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    17 hours ago

    Every lie that is told incurs a debt to the truth. A debt that shall one day be repaid.

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    16 hours ago

    That was Ukraine though. I guess still USSR.

  • onipa@feddit.org
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    18 hours ago

    @slampisko I get it!

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    18 hours ago

    Any information to the contrary, or is it just more propagandist hype?

    Russia is hiding all the plague victims? Seriously?

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      Hi Mr. Local Area Man. Funny of you to show up in yet another thread claiming that Russia is being preyed upon by the west again.

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        🙄 as if, huh

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      Mostly hype. Plague isn’t that virulent with modern precautions and antibiotics, and Russia’s response has been to swiftly quarantine hundreds of people. Plague occurs naturally on occasion, and is largely a known threat.

      Most of the hype has been speculation around this case being a bioweapon combined with distrust in Russian institutions generally.

      I’m not one to trust Russia generally, but I don’t see much evidence that this is more than a nothing burger blown out of proportion by growing anti-Russia sentiment due to their invasion of Ukraine.

      • mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Authoritarian regimes are a breeding ground for shitty cover-ups

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster

        • FrenziedFelidFanatic@pawb.social
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          I mean. You could have just linked Chernobyl.

          I don’t doubt that there would be some degree of cover-up if there was an escalating situation. I just don’t see any reason why it would be escalating.

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        I think Ukraine itself is a symptom of a bigger contagion, virulent capitalist greed that will kill us all.

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          I’m surprised to not see DR Congo on the list.

          • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
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            DRC has much of one of the things listed, rare earth minerals.

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              Yeah I knew it was mostly rare earth metals and some amount of oil. I was just surprised to not see them on the list because it seems to be focused on USD value of natural resources.

              Nevertheless it is an interesting chart, so thank you.

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                It puts U.S. foreign policy in perspective.

                The thawing Arctic is opening access to even more, which is why Trump wants Canada and Greenland.

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            Yeah, it ought to be in there between China and Iran, just based on mineral wealth. Makes the whole list suspect, tbh. Went to check the sources on Statista, but they want me to register before they’ll show me, so fuck that.

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              Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

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            Is he a medical doctor or what is his PhD in?

            • Billegh@lemmy.world
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              Just like Dr Pepper, it’s not a real doctor because there’s no period after “DR”

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          I mean it is, but Russia was giving up its resources for pennies ever since the 90s, this framing is a bit weird.

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            I think if that was true then there’d be no adversarial relationship with Russia, like attention to Venezuela disappeared overnight with them folding to Trump.

            The Arctic thawing is opening up access to a vast trove of natural resources. The fabled Northwest Passage is about to finally become a reality. This is why Trump wants Canada and Greenland. There’s only three nations, and Denmark has already folded.

            Russia has changed quite a bit since Putin took leadership, and for the better. Like it or not, it’s why Russians like him.

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              Russia has changed quite a bit since Putin took leadership, and for the better

              Well yeah compared to the borderline failed state that was 90s Russia, that’s not a difficult task, accomplished by getting the other billionaires to keep 1% of the wealth they’re extracting in the country.

              This is why Trump wants

              Trump is literally senile. There might be people in his administration who feel that way, but the administration’s policy is so demented I don’t think we can attribute clear motivations to anything.

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                I dunno. He got Venezuela and Greenland. I didn’t think either would work, but here we are.

                Do you think a Dem administration would let go of either if they took power? I don’t think so.

                The last days of humanity will be a violent struggle over dwindling resources to feed billionaires’ greed.

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        What are you talking about? Where? Who?

        https://www.dw.com/en/russia-lab-worker-death-fact-check/a-79560752

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          Gross, don’t link dw. Basically muscovite propaganda now.

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            He’s a Kremlin shill btw. Essentially pushing the the idea that Russia is nothing but a victim of the west, instead of a victim of the kleptocracy under Putin.

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            German state media is Russian propaganda?

            Don’t talk while you’re chewing crayons.

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