The title is a bit dishonest, most of the data didn’t leave the local network. According to the article, sending this much data seem to have been a bug instead of intended design.
Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely think having a coffee maker connected to the internet is completely stupid and useless. I made that comment because I hate dishonesty.
I don’t either, honestly. But my partner is a Cortado fangirl so I’m learning to make it as best I can. Luckily I really like the smell, and I can steam a nice Chain Latte for myself on it.
I feel like you’re purposefully taking that statement out of context to imply that I’m against things like the French press. We’re talking about electric coffee makers, and I’m clearly saying that they should have no internet connection.
How can I take it “out of context”? I replied to a single sentence comment and said comment is right there.
If you’re only against the coffee maker having an internet connection (and I agree on that), maybe you should’ve phrase your comment differently, I guess.
The context is everything before the comment. “Coffee maker”, in this context, pretty clearly means an automatic drip-brew coffee machine.
It would be like if we were talking about basketball, and I said, “my net is made of chain, as it should be”, and you were to reply, “how dare you, nylon is a perfectly fine material for fishing nets.”
The other sentence in my (apparently single sentence) comment, “As it was for 60 years”, should also have maybe been an indicator of what I meant.
My bad, it was a single line comment. Quite a pedantic thing to remark, but ok.
“Coffee maker”, in this context, pretty clearly means an automatic drip-brew coffee machine.
I don’t think anyone is disputing that or confused about it. It’s precisely what my response was about.
It would be like if we were talking about basketball, and I said, “my net is made of chain, as it should be”, and you were to reply, “how dare you, nylon is a perfectly fine material for fishing nets.”
Awful analogy. The brewing method changes the taste of the cup, a lot. A more adequate comparison would be saying that there’s only one way to make pizza. It’s not a minor detail. Even the net thing would be a weird thing to say, though.
Seems like you where the one confused after all. Oh well.
Define computer. Good espresso machines use a PID controller and some have ways to tweak the pressure curve + other features. There are even DIY projects to make your own. I think the part that bothers you is the data collection and internet connection. That is 100% not necessary.
The title is a bit dishonest, most of the data didn’t leave the local network. According to the article, sending this much data seem to have been a bug instead of intended design.
Okay, but here me out. Maybe coffee makers shouldn’t have a way to generate data.
Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely think having a coffee maker connected to the internet is completely stupid and useless. I made that comment because I hate dishonesty.
Hard disagree. Built a Gaggimate, can download custom shot profiles and upload shot logs for tasting notes.
I admit, I don’t drink coffee at all, but this Gaggimate thing look interesting.
I don’t either, honestly. But my partner is a Cortado fangirl so I’m learning to make it as best I can. Luckily I really like the smell, and I can steam a nice Chain Latte for myself on it.
how nice of you
But then how is it supposed to support RFC 2324?
here != hear
their their, it’s okay.
My coffee maker is a pot and heating element in a plastic shell, as it should be. As it was for 60 years.
“As it should be” is a strong statement. There are many more ways of making coffee.
I feel like you’re purposefully taking that statement out of context to imply that I’m against things like the French press. We’re talking about electric coffee makers, and I’m clearly saying that they should have no internet connection.
How can I take it “out of context”? I replied to a single sentence comment and said comment is right there.
If you’re only against the coffee maker having an internet connection (and I agree on that), maybe you should’ve phrase your comment differently, I guess.
The context is everything before the comment. “Coffee maker”, in this context, pretty clearly means an automatic drip-brew coffee machine.
It would be like if we were talking about basketball, and I said, “my net is made of chain, as it should be”, and you were to reply, “how dare you, nylon is a perfectly fine material for fishing nets.”
The other sentence in my (apparently single sentence) comment, “As it was for 60 years”, should also have maybe been an indicator of what I meant.
My bad, it was a single line comment. Quite a pedantic thing to remark, but ok.
I don’t think anyone is disputing that or confused about it. It’s precisely what my response was about.
Awful analogy. The brewing method changes the taste of the cup, a lot. A more adequate comparison would be saying that there’s only one way to make pizza. It’s not a minor detail. Even the net thing would be a weird thing to say, though.
Seems like you where the one confused after all. Oh well.
None of them involve the internet.
Yup, on that we can agree.
None of the good ones involve a computer
Define computer. Good espresso machines use a PID controller and some have ways to tweak the pressure curve + other features. There are even DIY projects to make your own. I think the part that bothers you is the data collection and internet connection. That is 100% not necessary.
It’s also based entirely on a tweet with zero follow-up or explanation as to what happened. People have lied on Twitter in the past, shockingly.
Lied? On Twitter? Nooooooo, couldn’t be
Twitter and every other copycat service that severely limits characters is genuinely a magnet for the world’s idiots.
He says in the article how he helps his parents with their network and noticed the coffee machine.