• aeronmelon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    11 months ago

    Through a series of understandable miscommunications, every year Starfleet Academy has between 5 and 10 course requests for “Partying” from incoming Vulcan applicants.

    At least one Vulcan each year withdrawals their application upon being told it is not a field of study taught by any human school.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      Vulcans take improv classes to act “normal.” They’re a surprise onstage because they never play the straight man. Being that one degree off from their sincere personality is confusing, difficult, and psychologically troublesome. But they can take a pratfall with comedic timing analyzed to the millisecond.

      … actually, improv comedy is a great way to demonstrate understanding of a culture. Vulcans would make analytic connections between subjects in a heartbeat, and with some training they’d be excellent lateral thinkers. The gap between that and comedy is understanding expectations and violating them in a way that safely builds and releases tension.

      Vulcans could tell brick jokes separated by months. You would never get them with a shaggy-dog story. They might have absurd reaction times for comebacks, but it would be limited, because I don’t think they’d handle wordplay. You’d never hear a Vulcan mutter “that’s what she said” in a timely fashion.

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    39
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    Isn’t that how most people socialize at parties? Some people can do it naturally, but I figure most people are pretending. I frequently ask myself “What would a normal human do in this situation?”

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      i feel like it depends: is this a party you want to be at or not?

      if it’s a party you don’t want to be at you’ll probably be pretending

      also: if you feel like this on basically a daily basis… yeah you probably have autism, welcome to the club.

      • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        What few people ever mention is … alcohol and sometimes drugs.

        Very few people imagine a party without some intoxicant. Even children’s parties, parents will give a party for the kids but the adults seperate themselves to enjoy a bit of alcohol.

        Just think of it … a party with 20 adults and no alcohol or drugs. Some people can do it but the majority of the population would avoid it.

        • ummthatguy@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          11 months ago

          “Many respectable physicists said that they weren’t going to stand for this – partly because it was a debasement of science, but mostly because they didn’t get invited to those sort of parties.”

          The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

        • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          11 months ago

          you’re just describing a LAN party or a DND session, nerds have had “parties” without alcohol or drugs for ages.

          • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            11 months ago

            I agree … Nerds and DND people sound like a sensible bunch because they actually go out of their way to have fun without intoxicants.

            What I’m talking about is the 90% of the population that can’t relate to other humans without getting a little drunk.

            • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              11 months ago

              DND table without at least one person being insufferable about the microbrew sour six-pack they brought challenge [IMPOSSIBLE}

    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      I mean, that’s my experience but I’m neurodivergent. My understanding is that that isn’t the norm for the allistic crowd.

    • sirblastalot@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      11 months ago

      I think it depends how close you are with the people around you. I had a good time at a friend’s holiday party recently (with no drugs or alcohol) just because I really love those folks and I’d enjoy spending time with them no matter what.

    • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      It comes out a lot more at work events. Some people like them, but a lot of people don’t and are just faking.

    • LeadersAtWork@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      As a introvert, that pretending will drain my batteries SO fast.

      Everyone else still going four hours in

      Me, dead in a corner after hour two

  • _number8_@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    11 months ago

    i’d literally rather die than go to a party. unfocused undirected unscheduled endless socializing where i have to pretend like i’m having 100% fun is a torture sentence

      • themoken@startrek.website
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        11 months ago

        I’m the opposite. Game nights have a protocol on top of socializing so I feel caged up in a mandatory activity. I’m an extreme introvert and I’d rather just sit and listen to everyone else chit chat than to learn a new game, talk about rules, and be forced to interact.

        I dunno, maybe it’s different with friends instead of acquaintances. Or if you already know the games.

      • Mango@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Bro you are me. I can’t make sense of me and you unless we’re gonna sex or something. I can make sense of us and objective.

    • sirblastalot@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      11 months ago

      What would you consider sincerely fun, no pretending? Would any of those activities be something you could share with loved ones? Boom, party.

  • Infynis@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    11 months ago

    There was a Vulcan diplomat in Enterprise that T’Pol looked up to, that surprised everyone when she came on board, by actually being diplomatic, and acting more human to get along with the humans. I bet she teaches the class on parties

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    Lesson #3456: When making a “joke”, any joke, whether it is good or bad and requires the audience to look at something, tell them …

    Look at that! … you see this … look at that … Look … See this … Look at that … Look at that … You seeing this … Look at that … Look … See it … Look … Look at it … Look

    … even after they have obviously looked at it, you continue pointing and directing their attention … wrap your arm around their shoulder, get in closer to them and continue telling them …

    Look at that! … you see this … look at that … Look … See this … Look at that … Look at that … You seeing this … Look at that … Look … See it … Look … Look at it … Look

    • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      11 months ago

      Lesson #5357: If there is a large water feature anywhere near the party, find the nearest tall structure and attempt to jump from this high point into the water. Ensure that you announce your actions to as many people as possible before making your attempt. Feasibility, common sense, safety or basic mathematics is not required.

      • BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        11 months ago

        “I’ve dwelt among the humans. Their entire culture is built around their penises. It’s funny to say they are small. It’s funny to say they are big. I’ve been at parties where humans held bottles, pencils, thermoses in front of themselves and called out, ‘Hey, look at me. I’m Mr. So-and-So Dick. I’ve got such-as-such for a penis.’ I never saw it fail to get a laugh.”

  • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    11 months ago

    I always find it interesting that on the silver screen, AI with superior emotional intelligence is always few and far between. It’s in tons of written sci-fi but for video it’s rare, for some reason.

    • Corgana@startrek.websiteOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      That’s a good observation! I liked how in “Her” the AI had the appearence of emotional intelligence, but you come to realize it was just using outputs that humans would respond to. Very precient for how GPT et al works.