When I get in the car and Tupac starts rapping about how I am going to the grocery store, the bank, and the liquor store and narrating every little thing that happens along the way only to realize that he narrated my entire afternoon in song… I’ll know it’s time to stomp on my phone and snip my internet.
Here’s the thing I don’t think its even that, if it infinitely personalized to what I want then I wouldn’t have ever gone out of my comfort zone and discover other types of music I now like.
I would just be listening to infinite greenday like some sort of corpopunk purgatory.
Art is more than what’s comfortable to you.
i wish there was a tool to detect AI music
is AI music very good though? good at what? at generic arrangements that render special into regular?
finally, being way too much on rym pays off. Ive never needed the algorithm, all playlists are my own and idgaf about apple musics suggested ones.
no but all jokes aside its a huge fucking problem. Good reccomendations are an invaluablr service in the musical community, and the fleeting time in which it was possible to use the algorithm meaningfully to find new music relating to your tastes was actually great. Which is ofcourse also exactly why its such a big problem when ai becomes auditorily (talking about artifacting here) indistinguishable from human made, AND that they show up alongside the human made without clear distinction.
If you really care, thinking about this sstuff always pays off. Personally in the process of getting my collection self hosted on jellyfin or something. Untill then, im keeping a sharp eye on the streaming shenanigans
but also also, CHECK OUT INTERNET RADIO. Discovered it like a year ago. Its like tapping into a world wide community of music nerds. Very early internet vibes
check out 16bit.fm B.T.M and I.D.E.A for some really tasty ravish electronics or Groove.fm from brazil for some immaculate chill vibes. The dj hasnt gotten the hang of it yet, some of the most insane transitions ive heard in a while, but that just shows that theres an actual person in brazil rocking out and trying their best, and that just brightens my day every time.
Keep it real out there ✌️
I don’t want something that was crafted to my taste. I want something so irresistibly unique that it redefines my taste.
This really is the heart of the entire AI pitch; a world where everything is comfortable and familiar and safe and easy and fucking sterile. A world where you never interact with other people because your agents do it for you. A world where you read, watch and listen to endless generic slop tuned to what your tastes were at the moment that you froze them in amber and stopped actually living. A world where digital sycophants tell you how to live and dress and act and what to order at the restaurant so that your mind will never be troubled by a stray thought.
Fucking Christ, I need to go listen to Angine de Poitrine to get the taste of this out of my mouth.
That sounds like a brave, new world
Succinctly put. It is about individuation. I had been trying to figure out what started “the realities of ‘Fahrenheit 451’” and AI is it. People will start telecommuting in a room, like in that book using agentic AI, etc.
I have infinite personalized music at home. It’s my guitar.
That’s one reason I left radio. Music chosen by an algorithm, as far back as the 80s.
Other reasons too, but that’s another story.
I like music by people who did drugs, computers can’t do drugs.
“You wouldn’t download a brick of China White”
I keep trying but its not working
Unzip the .tar file
Black .tar heroin
Infinite personalized music would become the most boring ass shit ever. Because the system would continually just play what you like and what you like would become narrower and narrower and narrower until it’s just the same sound over and over and over again.
There would be no listening to a randomized playlist that would occasionally pop in some new music from a new artist and the sound pops in your brain and you go “wow this is really amazing” and you discover a new song and sound that excites your brain. Instead you would just slowly become mentally numb listening to your infinite personalized slop.
Also completely misses the entire idea of fucking culture. How do you get a taste in “what you like”? YOU LISTEN TO WHAT OTHERS SHOW YOU!!! That’s culture: SHARED experiences.
Goddamn. The kinds of people rooting for this idea where you only listen to what you like are definitely the same ones who think the best way to meet a date is through as app. The only surprising part is that the silent majority aren’t angry enough to break their apathy yet.
Not only that but the entire social aspect of music is gone. It’s a wonderful experience to find a person who has similar taste in music to me. I can talk about it for hours. That disappears if everyone is fed a personalized feed of extremely tailored music. If things keep going the way they are Gen Z to the Baby Boomers really did have the best childhoods. We’re really making things worse for Gen Alpha on.
Absolutely. I dumped Spotify and the rest a couple years ago and went back to an mp3 player. Since leaving streamers I’ve discovered so much more music than I ever did with the algorithms. My old “safe” music I used to listen to seems boring by comparison.
How are you discovering music now?
Lately mostly checking top album downloads in any genre, checking posts on Lemmy, and paying more attention. A side effect I wasn’t expecting when I went to a music player (with wired headphones, the extra effort was part of the point) was my listening became much more deliberate. It’s purposeful to listen to music now, and as a result I’ve become more aware of music in general. It’s no longer just something to have on.
I’ve found a surprising number of artists from hearing a song on a TV show or movie (like Peacemaker, discovered Foxy Shazam). Music used to be background noise for me, now I actually hear it.
I’d guess about 75% of the music I’ve been listening to this year is different enough from what my normal taste used to be that an algorithm would have never shown me any of it. I went from “safe indie radio music” to Mongolian metal and Japanese synth lol.
If you want infinite personalised music, you get an instrument, and learn to play your own.
People that think like that seems to not engage with art enough;
Also, I really wanna see an AI bro try to make AI write lyrics like Caparezza’s one, they won’t be able lmao
My idea of hell is hearing infinite music for the first time.
I like new music, but first listen is always the hardest. music grows on me - rare is the song that i love at first listen.
“personalised music” is like hearing my own opinion 24/7, sooner or later it will become an echo chamber. It’s like create someone who can relate to you, it’s unhealthy.
But that’s what these AI bros want. Personal growth? Being challenged? That’s for plebs, real alphas only have yes-men and endless platitudes
What I think of whenever anyone goes on about claiming or behaving like they’re some “real peak alpha male”:
These tech bros know it and they sure try hard to compensate by flooding the zone with slop…
Oh I always took it as a version number, which seems fitting for tech bros. Like alpha version = buggy, not ready for the general public, use at your own risk
Ohh that’s a good one, too! They’re probably both ngl: Buggy brains and low penetrative power, very unsafe for the public as a result.
That poor neutron male killing his partner and the couple on the floor below every time he gets lucky.
Have you ever heard of Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex? It’s Larry Nivens essay on why Superman and Lois can never consummate.
Or watch Hancock
Unfortunately it’s not only AI bros who want that. A lot of people nowadays feel attacked and become aggressive the second they hear an opinion that doesn’t fit in their world view.
Society feels like there’s a religious war going on but without religion.
But then again, I’m old.
But it appeals to a lot of people.
Does it? Or is that just more of the perpetual AI Marketing Machine…?
It does, to some at least.
I have had the misfortune to hear a car driver listening to shitty patriotic AI pop with their windows open.
What kind of music do you parents listen to?
Jimmy Buffett mostly. I am also not sure the point of this comment.
You could have your own infinite Jimmie Buffett playlist! Cheeseburger in Paradise followed by Pizza in Paradise followed by Hotdog in Paradise followed by…
/s because AI bros are dense
Whoa. Cheeseburger in Paradise? You’ve certainly got MY attention.
Got a whole song for you then.
Whataboutism: A logical fallacy. The rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether.
I don’t think this is an example of whataboutism.
It is.
When he got questioned about her assumption, instead of addressing it, he just raised an unrelated question.
As a musician and composer, I will never ever use AI to make a single note of music, and will never listen to to AI music by choice. I want someone to put a little bit of their soul in every piece they create, just like I do. BTW, Tidal offers a AI music switch if you don’t want any of that crap to reach your feed.
As Mr. Ross once said, there’s only happy accidents.
I’d take a good time, no drinking required, with a group of jolly folk making the most nonsensical sounds than I do with the monotone, self-pleasing notes of a machine.
