This is one of those comics where I have no clue what’s actually going on and who Jane Doe is and subsequently want to look it up but then realise that I really don’t need that information in my life, it’s probably a harrowing and dreadful story. I’m gonna enjoy my blissful ignorance and listen to ride the cyclone instead.
If you do decide to looks it up, the reach term to find stories about this event is below
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Cornell 7. In 2024, A group of 7 frat fuck sticks gang raped a woman for 7 hours. Their only punishment was to write an essay. Cornell swept it under the rug.
Is this the one where she admited to consenting to everything but still claims it was rape because she was drunk and regretted it later?
Jane Doe is a pseudonym used to represent the (female) victim in court documents when the victim’s identity and/or privacy shall be protected.
Jane Doe is the title of the chainsaw man movie ending theme and thats all I need to know about that. Banger song and movie tho
yup. meet my aunt. many years of pick me isms and trying to shame me for speaking out for the metoo movement.
she was kidnapped as a young woman in a foreign country. she says she survived the ordeal and was never afraid during the whole episode but since i have known her she was absolutely cruel , shaming any victim of rape, hoisting her opinions up on being a survivor looking down on everyone else
slowly… she found she couldnt stand to be alone anywhere. not even without a big dog.
then it got worse
fast forward decades later now she is in shambles struggling with that past trauma that manifested as severely crippling anxiety as she grows older and cant even be around more than a few people without having a massive emotional breakdown. the last one she ended up hospitalized. now isolated herself on an island, claiming shes just wanting ‘alone time’ and cant stand people.
doesnt hesitate to middle finger at any women who speak up about rape.
behold: the true ‘survivor’.
I watched one of those kidnapping storys on youtube and I thought until 40 minutes in that the situation must have beed retty bad for her until the last 5 minutes which gave lasting anxiety. That shit isn’t just bad, its horrifying
Thank you for your aunt’s story, it made me once again realise my levels of misanthropy aren’t healthy and I need yet another 100 hours of therapy.
I remember My mother thinking the TV series Mad Men was too real because she worked in the late 70s and was sexually harassed as a 20 year old.
It’s all wild to me, The reception in my office are all like my little sisters, I just want to protect them and annoy them.
Wow, that’s a powerful one.
The sheer amount of violence that women and children are expected to absorb as normal in order to maintain the illusion of a civilized society is honestly staggering to look at.
Now here’s the fun thing. The undue pressure it puts on men is toxic as fuck too. This doesn’t benefit anyone!
its about megyn kelly how she justifed her SA/SH WAS different.
Sexual Assault. Sexual Harassment. Rape.
For fuck sake, people censoring words to skirt ‘the algorithm’ so their ‘post is higher’ isn’t helping. Making people have to ‘decode’ voluntarily-censored words impedes vital attention to - and discussion of - a horrible subject and hideous act that needs to be dragged into the light, kicking and screaming. Censoring these subject seems like obfuscation, and these loathsome acts should never be hidden. People who perpetrate such crimes thrive in darkness, when all they deserve is shame, ostracision, and long prison sentences.
Especially here, where there is no real algorithm to speak of. This self-censoring is pervasive and also changes the way people think, and not in a good way.
Using SA is pretty normal to tone down the horrible implications of the word. It’s not censorship in the algo sense, but it’s instead to lessen the impact the word can have on victims of it.
A is assault. What’s H?
Right? Isn’t self-censorship super fucking annoying?
I always understood SH as an acronym for self harm
Probably harassment
The law favors rapists. I realized a long time ago, just by women that I have known, that the statistics on rape are accurate and also low. I also realized that most men don’t understand that because they are not men who a woman would open up to about that. As for men who are worried about catching false charges, I would say that statistically you are more likely to get raped by another man than catch a fake charge. And because everything favors the rapist, he will probably get away with it.
When I was about 5 my then 3 year old sister was sexually abused by our adoptive mother’s husband at the time. I don’t really have a good memory, but I understand that I was drugged and maybe also messed with too. They took my sis to the hospital and confirmed the abuse took place.
The dude got a slap on the wrist, honestly. A few years jail (I think?) and a divorce - leaving behind a single mother on a teacher’s salary with 2 kids that he doesn’t even owe child support for. They both made the decision to adopt and he just got right out of any responsibility for that.
For us as kids, it meant lots of talking to professionals who barely got anything out of us. I mean, we were afraid. All we had was each other in the whole world and it seemed like we couldn’t even trust our own parents, so what do we do? Instead we grew up with little faith in family and no faith in a “God” who turned their back or a country who didn’t give a damn.
You did nothing wrong. You’re not alone. You don’t have to suffer in silence. Tell your story. You never know who might really need to hear it.
As a man, I can confirm this. It took me being raped (and a few years of bottling it up to even consciously come to the realisation that I was indeed raped) to do away with nearly two decades of indirect conditioning by “lad culture” and mass media et al to see why it goes unreported most of the time.
(mind you I was raped by a woman, AND the same woman falsely accused me of rape, harassment, and a number of other awful things)
You are not alone in this brother. I was laughed out of my local police department when I attempted to file a report. I went back later when a woman officer was present and she took me seriously. Of course the court system was another story.
Thank you for sharing your story, I’m heartsick that you had to endure it. I can’t imagine the extra amount of scrutiny in this case for you.
There are so many of us, Velma. I feel like the number of unreported rapes of men is far higher than that of women. You, as a woman, have a much higher chance of being believed than I do as a man. Which is a fucked up statistic to quote. “Being believed”. But it remains true.
Edit: meaning theres probably way more rapes of women but proportionally, the report rate is probably way lower for men. Because we feel like no one will believe us.
Part of dismantling our rape culture is elevating men’s voices and stories as well. I want my son to know he’ll be supported and believed if anything happens to him. I want victims to have the support they need regardless of gender, age, and status.
It’s so fucked up the amount of prison rape jokes aimed at men, jokes about young boys getting lucky to have a woman teacher rape them, all of it. It harms boys and men as well as girls and women and everyone in between when we treat victims as if they asked to be raped or didn’t do enough to prevent it.
I’m in your corner. You have my unwavering support 💕
You seem to forget that small little detail of “innocent until proven guilty” which is thisbtiny corner stone of our society and probably the reason why you too are a free person
THAT detail is ehy rape is so hard to convict people on because ypy need yo prove that a sexual interaction was not consensual and thus rape
In few cases that is obvious and easy to prove, in most its impossible to prove, and thus the perpetrator goes free.
Now I get it, it sucks that the bad guy gets away with it, but the other option is that we start jailing innocent people. The entire idea of the justice system is not to put the guilty in jail but to keep the innocent out of jail. I am not about to give up on that.
Could be phrased better. I don’t know why you’re “correcting” them. It’s a lot of assumptions when you could assume they agree with you on this. It doesn’t really conflict.
We believe in innocent until proven guilty. That favors rapists.
As for men who are worried about catching false charges
I absolutely fucking hate that argument, because men use it to prevent changes that would make prosecution of actual rapists easier. I understand the fear, but how often does it happen, that false charges get pressed onto man and how often does it happen that rapists do not get prosecuted for their crime? We all know someone who has been targeted by rape/sexual assault, but hardly anyone knows a rapist and even less a person that has been falsely accused of it.
Everyone has known a woman like this 🥺 can’t criticize what she’s been through but she’s out there perpetuating harm and you can’t make her see that
It took my mom decades to see the truth about what happened to her as a little girl. She didn’t tell my grandmother until a couple years ago. Heartbreaking.
It’s one of the many reasons that blaming victims should be called out each and every time. It’s imperative to be honest about these crimes and to believe victims when they come forward.
It’s imperative to be honest about these crimes and to believe victims when they come forward.
That is also not without its problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_rape_hoax?wprov=sfla1
The Duke case resulted from a journalist who thought doing an investigation would be the same as disbelieving a victim, and editors who agreed. Now rape-apologists have a bloody shirt to wave around.
I’m for provisionally believing people, but also not rushing to judgement in each and every case. We can do both.
The rate of false claims is much, much lower than actual rape and sexual assault. It’s not non-existent, but we shouldn’t immediately assume a rape victim is lying.
More often than not, the default is to dismiss and downplay claims.
For the one case at Duke, I can pull dozens (probably hundreds) of real rape cases at universities.
The official FBI stats indicate that less than 5% of claims investigated turn out to be false. That’s counting hoaxes, false alarms, and malicious reporting. I want to say they investigate around 388,000 reports annually on average so the combined number of events that don’t turn out to be true is less than 20k and the number of purposely false claims is going to be a lot less than that.
Agreed!
I never really understood believe victims to mean punish the accused with no evidence beyond testimony, more that we don’t need to loudly declare that victims are probably actually liars and offer support to people who clearly need it
Compassionately suspending judgment is not something we do well as a society. Battle lines are quickly drawn, sides chosen, and war begins before the jury is even seated.
We may not do it well right now, but we can change it.
Right, which is what makes misogyny such a bitch to bear
Yeah, I get why it happens. Declaring a unilateral truce isn’t a winning strategy, either. That’s why I said society as a whole has a problem; if one side instigates, the other has to respond. I don’t really have a solution.
I’m not really sure what you mean. There aren’t sides
Thank you for the added context :)
Missing context.
There it is, thank you JoMiran!
not sure what context this is supposed to add
The rapists.
I hadn’t heard of it myself, so I thought it prudent after reading the Wikipedia.
Definitely the right move! My entire news feed is full of this particular case, but that’s not true for everyone. I appreciate it!
Now she’s getting death threats because she dared speak up
I was horrified to see that she was swatted the other day. They literally tried to kill her by police.
It’s fucked up that a common way of trying to get someone killed is to send law enforcement to their house. How badly has our society messed up to make that our reality?
This is only a common way in countries with low police standards. In Germany you could probably also provoke the police sending the SEK to someone’s home, but they’re way better trained how to not use their weapon. Not to mention the one who called will get fucked sideways for such a thing.
Not to say our cops are all great (fuck no), just that the US doesn’t properly educate theirs about deescalation and non-lethal tactics.
that really isn’t suprising considering all the publicity
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Why is this censored?
The artist censored it.
Which says a lot about the internet today…
Jane Doe’s sworn statement in November of 2024 did not allege that she was drugged against her will or gang raped. On the contrary, Jane Doe’s statement described her participation in drug use and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious, and consensual.
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The View’s Sunny Hostin, a former federal prosecutor specializing in child sex crimes, said “she read the Jane Doe’s original nine-page 2024 statement” and “there is no way, according to her statement in 2024, that any prosecutor would have brought the case.”
How odd
It’s already been revealed that Cornell purposefully held back evidence from the DA. Keep up.
Doe replied that “non [sic] of the sexual stuff was illegal”
Believe all women
You were just the victim of a drugged gang rape by a tightly knit group of students on your campus that you have to keep going to. Try walking in those shoes for a moment and think about how this experience might shape your responses when your rapists talk to you.
The man started by apologizing for “how things went down.” He said his memory is “kinda fuzzy,” and that he and another man feel bad for being too intoxicated to “shut it down and kick people out before it got way out of hand.”
The woman in the text chain replied that her memory is “super clouded too,” and said they had all been heavily intoxicated.
She also wrote, “non(e) of the sexual stuff was illegal.” She said she liked being with him and another man. Later, she suggested they smoke together again, “but like leave out the extra 5 billion men and ketamine.”
You’re not being as clever as you think you are.
Thanks, I understand it’s normal to start planning to hang out with your gang rapists ASAP
It literally is
lol I wonder what it’s like living in this fantasy world of yours
You too can experience it, by doing research instead of basing your worldview on vibes.
It’s a lot less comfortable.
I feel like you have not read the actual narrative. You’re just ignoring all of the evidence that shows a lack of consent. And I won’t explain it here, because there’s so much solid reporting already available to you, or anyone who might have a similar view.
Go read it. Do your homework. Meh.
I read the evidence available to the public and formed my own opinion. She regretted it after other women started slut shaming her.
She was planning to go party at the same frat house, with the same people, to use the same drugs, to get a smaller train run on her and ONLY after her invite was withdrawn did she decide to go crying about events.
I want you to know that you’re a real piece of shit
You will die alone and lonely
Fawning is a pretty normal trauma response along with freeze, fight, and flight.
Managed to get yourself banned from the Europe community for being a nazi, eh?
Oh yeah apparently being anti-slavery is nazi behaviour
Mhm.
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